So you don’t actually hear people making the argument you mentioned, and the published arguments by Kaufman and Lewis don’t suffer from the inconsistency you mention? Kaufman makes an argument that counting human and cow lives equally, modest AMF donations can be a bigger deal than dairy consumption, while Lewis argues that if one takes ACE estimates seriously, then modest donations to ACE-recommended charities can be a bigger deal than general carnivory.
On the question of donations to AMF vs THL, Kaufman weights AMF over ACE charities because he cares less about nonhuman animals than humans. Some others do so because of flow-through effects. Lewis is vegetarian, but I think mainly donates to poverty and existential risk related things, and I don’t know his precise reasons but they aren’t germane to his essay.
“is the argument Ben was quoting.”
Ben’s description didn’t specify someone thinking AMF was better because they didn’t believe in the robustness of THL ‘animals spared’ estimates. You inserted that, which created the tension in your hypothetical argument. People who favored AMF over THL because of flow-through effects, or because of weighting humans more, wouldn’t have that tension (I would argue the flow-through view would create other tensions, but that’s a different story).
So you don’t actually hear people making the argument you mentioned, and the published arguments by Kaufman and Lewis don’t suffer from the inconsistency you mention? Kaufman makes an argument that counting human and cow lives equally, modest AMF donations can be a bigger deal than dairy consumption, while Lewis argues that if one takes ACE estimates seriously, then modest donations to ACE-recommended charities can be a bigger deal than general carnivory.
On the question of donations to AMF vs THL, Kaufman weights AMF over ACE charities because he cares less about nonhuman animals than humans. Some others do so because of flow-through effects. Lewis is vegetarian, but I think mainly donates to poverty and existential risk related things, and I don’t know his precise reasons but they aren’t germane to his essay.
“is the argument Ben was quoting.”
Ben’s description didn’t specify someone thinking AMF was better because they didn’t believe in the robustness of THL ‘animals spared’ estimates. You inserted that, which created the tension in your hypothetical argument. People who favored AMF over THL because of flow-through effects, or because of weighting humans more, wouldn’t have that tension (I would argue the flow-through view would create other tensions, but that’s a different story).
I think you’re right actually. A lot of people who prefer AMF to THL are still vegetarian, and that’s totally reasonable and self-consistent.