Yes, Iād definitely guess that thereād be ways to do this, or versions of this, which wouldnāt lead to people seeing this push as associated with EA. And that would reduce some risks.
(I didnāt mean to imply my points should push against doing any version of this idea, just that they push against some versions of the idea, or push for particularly great caution regarding those versions of the idea. Also, itās possible that association with EA would actually be net positive by raising EAās profile or associating it with something concrete that many people end up liking; Iām just unsure, and think we should be cautious there.)
But counteracting those risks wonāt necessarily counteract the other sort of risk I mentioned, which is that rushing somewhat means a less good version of this is implemented than what couldāve been implemented, and once itās implemented itās extremely hard to change. So thatās a separate reason to consider things like piloting and doing further research before pushing for widespread rollouts, even if the version of this thatās being done isnāt perceived as associated with EA at all.
(And thatās not a critique of your post, as your post isnāt a public campaign but rather a post to the EA Forum sharing an idea and soliciting input, which is definitely within the category of things Iād suggest at this stage.)
OK thanks that all makes sense. I would love for there to further research and investigation. For example some philosophers/āeducation practitioners in the movement could have a look at the philosophy course I mention to see if itās something that is worth supporting in addition to your suggestions in another comment.
Yes, Iād definitely guess that thereād be ways to do this, or versions of this, which wouldnāt lead to people seeing this push as associated with EA. And that would reduce some risks.
(I didnāt mean to imply my points should push against doing any version of this idea, just that they push against some versions of the idea, or push for particularly great caution regarding those versions of the idea. Also, itās possible that association with EA would actually be net positive by raising EAās profile or associating it with something concrete that many people end up liking; Iām just unsure, and think we should be cautious there.)
But counteracting those risks wonāt necessarily counteract the other sort of risk I mentioned, which is that rushing somewhat means a less good version of this is implemented than what couldāve been implemented, and once itās implemented itās extremely hard to change. So thatās a separate reason to consider things like piloting and doing further research before pushing for widespread rollouts, even if the version of this thatās being done isnāt perceived as associated with EA at all.
(And thatās not a critique of your post, as your post isnāt a public campaign but rather a post to the EA Forum sharing an idea and soliciting input, which is definitely within the category of things Iād suggest at this stage.)
OK thanks that all makes sense. I would love for there to further research and investigation. For example some philosophers/āeducation practitioners in the movement could have a look at the philosophy course I mention to see if itās something that is worth supporting in addition to your suggestions in another comment.