I would agree with you in the overwhelming majority of cases, but I would make exceptions in cases where the differences are relevant and large and the issue is important (all of which I think apply here).
Even if the differences you pointed to in the OP are real on average (and for some of them that is a generous assumption), what makes you think they are large? Even where men and women are different on average, the differences are usually very small, much smaller than the variation within either gender.
differences in sex drive are about as large as gendered differences get, I think. i suspect that the difference in comfort is less that women have better social skills[1] than that they have the moral luck that the median man is happy to sleep with the median woman and that they are ~less physically threatening or something. (add ’on average” to all of the above)
i suspect differences in ~romantic attraction are much smaller, it’s just that secondary relationships … are romantic relationships? idk about all the stuff monogamous people do.
I totally agree with the gist of your comment t but as far as gendered differences go physical strength/size is almost certainly larger than differences in sex drive. That absolutely implies the probability a woman feels physically threatened by a man is much, much higher than the probability a man feels physically threatened by a woman.
We already have tons of implicit norms that ask different behaviours of men and women, and these norms are the reason why it’s women coming forward to say they feel uncomfortable rather than men. There are significant differences in how men and women approach dating in professional contexts, see power dynamics, and in the ratio of men in powerful positions versus women (as well as the gender ratio in EA generally). Drawing attention to these differences and discussing new norms that ask for different behaviours of men in these contexts (and different behaviours from the institutions/systems that these men interact with) is necessary to prevent these situations from happening in the future.
Really depressing how many disagree votes this is getting. Calling bs on all the hand wringing about sexism in EA. People are so worried about sexism and gender inclusion yet think that blatant double standards are just fine? How phony.
I am opposed to any norm that asks different behavior of men than women.
I would agree with you in the overwhelming majority of cases, but I would make exceptions in cases where the differences are relevant and large and the issue is important (all of which I think apply here).
Even if the differences you pointed to in the OP are real on average (and for some of them that is a generous assumption), what makes you think they are large? Even where men and women are different on average, the differences are usually very small, much smaller than the variation within either gender.
differences in sex drive are about as large as gendered differences get, I think.
i suspect that the difference in comfort is less that women have better social skills[1] than that they have the moral luck that the median man is happy to sleep with the median woman and that they are ~less physically threatening or something.
(add ’on average” to all of the above)
i suspect differences in ~romantic attraction are much smaller, it’s just that secondary relationships … are romantic relationships? idk about all the stuff monogamous people do.
I think the human social skill default is we assume other people are like ourselves
I totally agree with the gist of your comment t but as far as gendered differences go physical strength/size is almost certainly larger than differences in sex drive. That absolutely implies the probability a woman feels physically threatened by a man is much, much higher than the probability a man feels physically threatened by a woman.
I had an implicit ‘psychological’ in my head when i said ‘sex differences’, thanks for pointing that out :)
We already have tons of implicit norms that ask different behaviours of men and women, and these norms are the reason why it’s women coming forward to say they feel uncomfortable rather than men. There are significant differences in how men and women approach dating in professional contexts, see power dynamics, and in the ratio of men in powerful positions versus women (as well as the gender ratio in EA generally). Drawing attention to these differences and discussing new norms that ask for different behaviours of men in these contexts (and different behaviours from the institutions/systems that these men interact with) is necessary to prevent these situations from happening in the future.
Really depressing how many disagree votes this is getting. Calling bs on all the hand wringing about sexism in EA. People are so worried about sexism and gender inclusion yet think that blatant double standards are just fine? How phony.