I am admittedly also biased because I find most moral philosophy debates irritating, and think that EAs as a whole spend far too much time on them rather than actually doing things!
I’d say the biggest red flag for moral philosophy is that it still uses intuition both as a hypothesis generator and reliable evidence, when it’s basically worthless for conclusions to accept. Yet that’s the standard moral philosophy is in. It’s akin to the pre-science era of knowledge.
That’s why it’s so irritating.
So I can draw 2 conclusions from that:
Mind independent facts about morality are not real, in the same vein as identity is not real (controversially, consciousness probably is this.)
There is a reality, but moral philosophy needs to be improved.
And I do think it’s valuable for EA to do this, if only to see whether there is a reality at the end of it all.
I’d say the biggest red flag for moral philosophy is that it still uses intuition both as a hypothesis generator and reliable evidence, when it’s basically worthless for conclusions to accept. Yet that’s the standard moral philosophy is in. It’s akin to the pre-science era of knowledge.
That’s why it’s so irritating.
So I can draw 2 conclusions from that:
Mind independent facts about morality are not real, in the same vein as identity is not real (controversially, consciousness probably is this.)
There is a reality, but moral philosophy needs to be improved.
And I do think it’s valuable for EA to do this, if only to see whether there is a reality at the end of it all.