I quote from above: “I’m NOT looking for any funding, either—there’s a decent chance that the cost of the solution is lower than the Federal Government’s increased tax-revenue from hurricane-prevention, so I say that the government should pay for it.”
I’m NOT asking to use EA money—I repeatedly clarify that, at every opportunity, and yet it is insisted-up multiple times, on this forum. No, EA only has $30B, so you can’t afford stopping hurricanes, even if you spent your entire budget. I pointed to the potential value of looking for solutions at $1B, which is the actual expected-value, NOT the ‘value to EA’. I’m not trying to take ANY dollars from your charities. Do you hear that, yet? I don’t appreciate being repeatedly misrepresented and strawmanned.
Are you suggesting that I cold-call Sella Nevo? Do you have a way to put me in touch, so that I am not ignored, as I have been here?
I did not say you were looking for funding. I am sorry to the degree I am responsible for miscommunication, or if I unintentionally upset you in any way. I am always trying to be better at communication. I hope you have a good day.
Upvoted for the last three sentences, but I believe your first sentence is incorrect. The second paragraph of your initial comment does not make sense to me in the absence of you believing that Anthony was looking for funding.
I was not intentionally suggesting that Anthony was asking for a billion dollars in funding. It’s strange to me that >=2 people will read my comment that way. I’m again sorry for any miscommunication.
I don’t think it’s prudent for me to engage further in this thread, even though this type of thing naturally draws me in. I will donate $10 to Homeopaths Without Borders if I comment further.
My read on your comment is that you misread Anthony’s allusion to $1b as about potentially spending $1b at some stage (whether right now or later), rather than about the expected impact of his idea. I could be wrong, but that’s the only way your comment makes sense to me (“if you spent $1b of EA money”—what could this refer to besides spending $1b of money?).
Anthony is asking for connection to someone who is skilled at running a particular kind of simulation to see if his idea has potential. He believes that the value of checking of his idea might be $1b, because of potentially trillions of dollars worth of gains. Crucially, it would not take $1b to check his idea—that figure is an estimate of the potential value of checking the idea, not of the cost of checking it. The cost of checking is probably something like the social capital to connect him with a relevant person and the costs involved in running the simulation (if it progresses to that stage).
I don’t think this was a bad mistake on your end, just a quick, incorrect assumption that you made while trying to help someone. It only led to a fractious response because so many other EAs have also misread and misunderstood Anthony, and he is naturally tired and upset by this. In my opinion, the fault here lies mostly with social dynamics rather than any one person acting particularly badly.
I appreciate your attempts to engage productively (including deciding not to engage if that seems better to you), take responsibility for any mistakes you may have made, and without assigning blame to other parties. That is a clear positive to me.
My posts where I expressed what had been misrepresented and requested apologies have been deleted. And now, you apologize, after those deletes. I am suspicious. Why is your crew hiding the times I clarified and defended myself?
In truth, you DID talk about “Anthony getting EA funding” when you said “My hot take here is that if you spend $1B of EA money...” SO, don’t lie to me. You did, in fact, say that I would take funding. I hope your apology is real, and not just covering face by pretending you did nothing to misrepresent me. You did misrepresent me. Can you admit that?
I quote from above: “I’m NOT looking for any funding, either—there’s a decent chance that the cost of the solution is lower than the Federal Government’s increased tax-revenue from hurricane-prevention, so I say that the government should pay for it.”
I’m NOT asking to use EA money—I repeatedly clarify that, at every opportunity, and yet it is insisted-up multiple times, on this forum. No, EA only has $30B, so you can’t afford stopping hurricanes, even if you spent your entire budget. I pointed to the potential value of looking for solutions at $1B, which is the actual expected-value, NOT the ‘value to EA’. I’m not trying to take ANY dollars from your charities. Do you hear that, yet? I don’t appreciate being repeatedly misrepresented and strawmanned.
Are you suggesting that I cold-call Sella Nevo? Do you have a way to put me in touch, so that I am not ignored, as I have been here?
I did not say you were looking for funding. I am sorry to the degree I am responsible for miscommunication, or if I unintentionally upset you in any way. I am always trying to be better at communication. I hope you have a good day.
Upvoted for the last three sentences, but I believe your first sentence is incorrect. The second paragraph of your initial comment does not make sense to me in the absence of you believing that Anthony was looking for funding.
I was not intentionally suggesting that Anthony was asking for a billion dollars in funding. It’s strange to me that >=2 people will read my comment that way. I’m again sorry for any miscommunication.
I don’t think it’s prudent for me to engage further in this thread, even though this type of thing naturally draws me in. I will donate $10 to Homeopaths Without Borders if I comment further.
I hope you have a good day.
My read on your comment is that you misread Anthony’s allusion to $1b as about potentially spending $1b at some stage (whether right now or later), rather than about the expected impact of his idea. I could be wrong, but that’s the only way your comment makes sense to me (“if you spent $1b of EA money”—what could this refer to besides spending $1b of money?).
Anthony is asking for connection to someone who is skilled at running a particular kind of simulation to see if his idea has potential. He believes that the value of checking of his idea might be $1b, because of potentially trillions of dollars worth of gains. Crucially, it would not take $1b to check his idea—that figure is an estimate of the potential value of checking the idea, not of the cost of checking it. The cost of checking is probably something like the social capital to connect him with a relevant person and the costs involved in running the simulation (if it progresses to that stage).
I don’t think this was a bad mistake on your end, just a quick, incorrect assumption that you made while trying to help someone. It only led to a fractious response because so many other EAs have also misread and misunderstood Anthony, and he is naturally tired and upset by this. In my opinion, the fault here lies mostly with social dynamics rather than any one person acting particularly badly.
I appreciate your attempts to engage productively (including deciding not to engage if that seems better to you), take responsibility for any mistakes you may have made, and without assigning blame to other parties. That is a clear positive to me.
Hope you have a good day as well :)
The “misrepresentation” about a search for funding was related for monies for a personal project or org to develop the intervention.
The second paragraph was for funding for the intervention itself.
They are really different things. Like the difference between an org researching food aid, versus buying billions of dollars of actual food.
I doubt the person believes he can literally stop hurricanes without government funding.
Unfortunately, I think you are muddying the waters in your intervention. With my read of the relevant person, this might not serve them well.
My posts where I expressed what had been misrepresented and requested apologies have been deleted. And now, you apologize, after those deletes. I am suspicious. Why is your crew hiding the times I clarified and defended myself?
In truth, you DID talk about “Anthony getting EA funding” when you said “My hot take here is that if you spend $1B of EA money...” SO, don’t lie to me. You did, in fact, say that I would take funding. I hope your apology is real, and not just covering face by pretending you did nothing to misrepresent me. You did misrepresent me. Can you admit that?