I would be in favor of karma given in community posts not counting towards a user’s overall karma, but I expect it to be at the very least technically annoying to implement (and I’m not that strongly in favor of it).
A downside of both this approach and other ways of separating “community” and “object-level” posts is that it might require some tricky decisions about which “community building” posts count as “community”.
I think this gets a bit complicated if e.g. someone makes a really good critique of an existing meta org or something—I think that person should get karma for doing good work and improving our meta efforts (e.g. the post red-teaming CEA was very high quality and took a lot of effort, george rosenfeld’s post about spending was similarly well written / made good points). I think it would make sense if the karma were down-weighted or something, but not having it count at all seems bad to me.
(disclaimer: i write / read a lot of meta / community things and find them valuable so might be a bit biased here)
I agree that it would be a downside, but not as big as the implementation, and IMHO the change would still be net positive in the current situation (and maybe things tagged Criticism and Red Teaming Contest, or “building effective altruism” would still count)
In any case, excited to see if the new tab test improves things
FWIW I (as a software developer unaffiliated with the forum) don’t expect the technical implementation of this to be difficult, at least not more than, say, the agreevote split.
(Not taking a position on whether the change would be desirable.)
I would be in favor of karma given in community posts not counting towards a user’s overall karma, but I expect it to be at the very least technically annoying to implement (and I’m not that strongly in favor of it).
A downside of both this approach and other ways of separating “community” and “object-level” posts is that it might require some tricky decisions about which “community building” posts count as “community”.
I think this gets a bit complicated if e.g. someone makes a really good critique of an existing meta org or something—I think that person should get karma for doing good work and improving our meta efforts (e.g. the post red-teaming CEA was very high quality and took a lot of effort, george rosenfeld’s post about spending was similarly well written / made good points). I think it would make sense if the karma were down-weighted or something, but not having it count at all seems bad to me.
(disclaimer: i write / read a lot of meta / community things and find them valuable so might be a bit biased here)
I agree that it would be a downside, but not as big as the implementation, and IMHO the change would still be net positive in the current situation (and maybe things tagged Criticism and Red Teaming Contest, or “building effective altruism” would still count)
In any case, excited to see if the new tab test improves things
FWIW I (as a software developer unaffiliated with the forum) don’t expect the technical implementation of this to be difficult, at least not more than, say, the agreevote split.
(Not taking a position on whether the change would be desirable.)