I’m pretty pro-ETG. But I do agree with these points Lilly.
I wonder if showcasing and building on the fun of giving effectively would be helpful? I actually have very little experince to draw on here myself—but it seems to me that doling out one’s wealth actually can pretty be enjoyable, if we attempt to make it so?
There’s the basic fuzzies—but also the impression of building something. Some people collect old cars or stock tropical aquariums. In so far as value erosion is typified by declining interest when one leaves fertile EA social circles in college (I think ideology and lifestyle changes as causality are a little bit over empathized comparatively), keeping up those networks might help. Giving as a fun hobby you do with your friends. Just like other hobbies, but it’s donation data spreadsheets and counterfactual impact that you collect instead of rare coins or vintage sneakers.
Relatedly—I’ve heard of parties where people came together to compile donations on giving days? Never been to one, but these seem great.
Especially for people without direct involvement like ETG people and recent grads—we can’t just assume they’ll stay in EA because “it’s true/right”, some people need that social push. EAGs are good, but are simply too big, too costly and too formal.
I’m pretty pro-ETG. But I do agree with these points Lilly.
I wonder if showcasing and building on the fun of giving effectively would be helpful? I actually have very little experince to draw on here myself—but it seems to me that doling out one’s wealth actually can pretty be enjoyable, if we attempt to make it so?
There’s the basic fuzzies—but also the impression of building something. Some people collect old cars or stock tropical aquariums. In so far as value erosion is typified by declining interest when one leaves fertile EA social circles in college (I think ideology and lifestyle changes as causality are a little bit over empathized comparatively), keeping up those networks might help. Giving as a fun hobby you do with your friends. Just like other hobbies, but it’s donation data spreadsheets and counterfactual impact that you collect instead of rare coins or vintage sneakers.
Relatedly—I’ve heard of parties where people came together to compile donations on giving days? Never been to one, but these seem great.
There’s a good (but somewhat muddled) forum post on this: What to do with people? https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/oNY76m8DDWFiLo7nH/what-to-do-with-people
Especially for people without direct involvement like ETG people and recent grads—we can’t just assume they’ll stay in EA because “it’s true/right”, some people need that social push. EAGs are good, but are simply too big, too costly and too formal.