While I didn’t like the initial design for various reasons others have stated, I think the ensuing discussion has been really fun, and this is the kind of content I’d like to see more of on several levels (covers art/design, aims to bring community together, is light and playful). Given its overall impact, I’m very glad the post was published.
Thanks Aaron! I think I made a mistake by calling it “proposed”, which probably implied more certainty than appropriate, and caused people to vote as if it was a proposal rather than a starting point for discussion.
I was sad to see the downvotes on this post. (Despite writing the most critical comment here, I did not downvote it.)
I’d be interested to hear whether people were downvoting because they didn’t like the design or because they think this isn’t a good kind of content to have on the Forum. The latter sounds like a good reason, but one that would be better to have communicated via comments. The former doesn’t seem like a great reason to me.
I at least didn’t upvote because I was concerned this would increase the probability of this specific flag getting traction (which I think would be bad), but I really liked the comments and would love to see more threads like this, and upvoted a lot of stuff in the comments.
I downvoted for reasons similar to Stefan’s comment: longtermism is not synonymous with a focus on x-risk and space colonization, and the black bar symbolism creates that association. In EA discourse, I have observed consistent conflation of longtermism with this particular subset of longtermist priorities, and I’d like to strongly push back against that. (I believe I would feel the same even if my priorities aligned with that subset.)
Upvoted.
While I didn’t like the initial design for various reasons others have stated, I think the ensuing discussion has been really fun, and this is the kind of content I’d like to see more of on several levels (covers art/design, aims to bring community together, is light and playful). Given its overall impact, I’m very glad the post was published.
Thanks Aaron! I think I made a mistake by calling it “proposed”, which probably implied more certainty than appropriate, and caused people to vote as if it was a proposal rather than a starting point for discussion.
I was sad to see the downvotes on this post. (Despite writing the most critical comment here, I did not downvote it.)
I’d be interested to hear whether people were downvoting because they didn’t like the design or because they think this isn’t a good kind of content to have on the Forum. The latter sounds like a good reason, but one that would be better to have communicated via comments. The former doesn’t seem like a great reason to me.
I at least didn’t upvote because I was concerned this would increase the probability of this specific flag getting traction (which I think would be bad), but I really liked the comments and would love to see more threads like this, and upvoted a lot of stuff in the comments.
Seems reasonable :-)
I downvoted for reasons similar to Stefan’s comment: longtermism is not synonymous with a focus on x-risk and space colonization, and the black bar symbolism creates that association. In EA discourse, I have observed consistent conflation of longtermism with this particular subset of longtermist priorities, and I’d like to strongly push back against that. (I believe I would feel the same even if my priorities aligned with that subset.)