EDIT: Comment here was about a video by InIn, where I incorrectly speculated that they might’ve misused trademarks to signal affiliation with several other EA orgs. At least one of those orgs has confirmed that they did review the video prior to publication, so in fact there was not an issue. I apologize; it was wrong to speculate about that when it wasn’t true, and without adequately investigating first.
I’m going to guess that none of GW, TLYCS, ACE, or GWWC worked with InIn on this video, saw it before it was published, or consented to the use of their trademarks in it.
The video description does say “All the organizations involved in the video reviewed the script and provided a high-resolution copy of their logo. Their collaboration in the production of this video does not imply their specific support for any other organizations involved in the video.”
You’re right, I missed that. I’ll edit the parent post to fix the error.
(Given the history, I’m curious to find out what “reviewed the script and provided a high-resolution copy of their logo” means, and in particular whether they saw the entire script, and therefore knew they were being featured next to InIn, or whether they only reviewed the portion that was about themselves.)
An update from The Life You Can Save: we saw and approved this particular video for publication. We did not check with other non-profits as we assumed that was not our responsibility.
Jim, in light of the statement in the video description I think you should edit this post more to reduce snark based on a questionable hypothesis (and put the edits on top). I think this is also a good example of the value of careful and cautious approach to these things.
Also, while the GiveWell pronunciation is not that usually used by GiveWell staff, pronouncing the words separately actually makes it easier to understand.
If the organizations concerned give permission, I am happy to share documentary evidence in my email of them reviewing the script and giving access to their high-quality logo images. I am also happy to share evidence of me running the final video by them and giving them an opportunity to comment on the wording of the description below the video, which some did to help optimize the description to suit their preferences. I would need permission from the orgs before sharing such email evidence, of course.
And at least some of the orgs have been contacted (see Neela’s comment) and have the opportunity to disclaim if they wish. [ETA: and have said this was true in their own case, see Neela’s second comment.]
EDIT: Comment here was about a video by InIn, where I incorrectly speculated that they might’ve misused trademarks to signal affiliation with several other EA orgs. At least one of those orgs has confirmed that they did review the video prior to publication, so in fact there was not an issue. I apologize; it was wrong to speculate about that when it wasn’t true, and without adequately investigating first.
The video description does say “All the organizations involved in the video reviewed the script and provided a high-resolution copy of their logo. Their collaboration in the production of this video does not imply their specific support for any other organizations involved in the video.”
You’re right, I missed that. I’ll edit the parent post to fix the error.
(Given the history, I’m curious to find out what “reviewed the script and provided a high-resolution copy of their logo” means, and in particular whether they saw the entire script, and therefore knew they were being featured next to InIn, or whether they only reviewed the portion that was about themselves.)
Thanks for this. I volunteer for The Life You Can Save and I am checking in on this for the organization. I will get back to you shortly.
An update from The Life You Can Save: we saw and approved this particular video for publication. We did not check with other non-profits as we assumed that was not our responsibility.
Hope that helps.
Jim, in light of the statement in the video description I think you should edit this post more to reduce snark based on a questionable hypothesis (and put the edits on top). I think this is also a good example of the value of careful and cautious approach to these things.
Also, while the GiveWell pronunciation is not that usually used by GiveWell staff, pronouncing the words separately actually makes it easier to understand.
If the organizations concerned give permission, I am happy to share documentary evidence in my email of them reviewing the script and giving access to their high-quality logo images. I am also happy to share evidence of me running the final video by them and giving them an opportunity to comment on the wording of the description below the video, which some did to help optimize the description to suit their preferences. I would need permission from the orgs before sharing such email evidence, of course.
I am confident this is true.
And at least some of the orgs have been contacted (see Neela’s comment) and have the opportunity to disclaim if they wish. [ETA: and have said this was true in their own case, see Neela’s second comment.]