I guess that sounds a lot like suggesting that people who value epistemics should just surrender the public conversation which is essentially the same as surrendering the direction that EA takes?
I think that epistemics will ground out in terms of more impact, but explaining this would take a bit of work and so I’m deciding to pass today because I already spent too long on my comment above. However, feel free to ping me in a few days if you’d like me to write something up.
I guess that sounds a lot like suggesting that people who value epistemics should just surrender the public conversation which is essentially the same as surrendering the direction that EA takes?
That’s not what I was saying, and I don’t really understand where you got that idea from. I was saying that the people who value epistemics need to actually do work, and push for investment by EA into community epistemics. In other words, they should “stop complaining, and work on exhibiting those traits, explaining clearly why they are useful, and how to build them, and proactively pushing for the community to build those traits.” That’s what they should do—instead of complaining and thinking that it will help, when what it actually does is hurt the community while failing to improve epistemic norms
I guess that sounds a lot like suggesting that people who value epistemics should just surrender the public conversation which is essentially the same as surrendering the direction that EA takes?
I think that epistemics will ground out in terms of more impact, but explaining this would take a bit of work and so I’m deciding to pass today because I already spent too long on my comment above. However, feel free to ping me in a few days if you’d like me to write something up.
That’s not what I was saying, and I don’t really understand where you got that idea from. I was saying that the people who value epistemics need to actually do work, and push for investment by EA into community epistemics. In other words, they should “stop complaining, and work on exhibiting those traits, explaining clearly why they are useful, and how to build them, and proactively pushing for the community to build those traits.”
That’s what they should do—instead of complaining and thinking that it will help, when what it actually does is hurt the community while failing to improve epistemic norms
Perhaps people already are exhibiting those traits =P? It’s not like it would necessarily be super legible if they were.
And it’s hard to make progress on a problem if you want to hide that it exists.