👋 Looks interesting! What do you think about having the title reflect its origins, e.g. “linkpost: Climate Change Is Worse Than Factory Farming”, or “suggested reading: [X]” or something like that?
At a glance right now, the UX here looks like the EA Forum Team is itself endorsing this pretty radical position. (FWIW I appreciate the drive to cross-post interesting material/the broader drive to improve the forum experience, I have been thinking about your other post a bit lately and hope to respond soon)
Gosh yeah that’s reasonable. I was hoping to avoid making another team account to do this kind of crossposting but that’s probably the best solution. I guess it’s time for SummaryBot to get a sibling, maybe LinkpostBot?
For context: I want the Forum team to be able to do more active crossposting in the future, so it seems reasonable to have a sort of “placeholder” account for when the author of the original piece doesn’t have a Forum account. Personally when I see a linkpost, I generally assume that the author here is also the original author (outside of obvious cases like a NYT article link), and it’s kinda confusing when that’s not the case (I’m more used to this now but it was extra confusing when I was a new user). I also personally feel kinda weird getting karma for just linking to someone else’s work, and probably don’t want my Forum profile to mostly be links to other articles.
On the other hand, I do want users to feel free to linkpost external articles that they didn’t write, especially if they add their own commentary, or even just make some editorial decisions on which parts to quote. (That’s why I was fine with crossposting this using my own account, for example.)
Caveat: I consider these minor issues, I hope I don’t come across as too accusatory.
Interesting, why’s that? :)
It seems that the reason for cross-posting was that you personally found it interesting. If you use the EA forum team account, it sounds a bit like an “official” endorsement, and makes the Forum Team less neutral.
Even if you use another account name (eg “selected linkposts”) that is run by the Forum Team, I think there should be some explanation how those linkposts are selected, otherwise it seems like arbitrarily privileging some stuff over other stuff.
A “LinkpostBot” account would be good if the cross-posting is automated (e.g. every ACX article who mentions Effective Altruism).
I also personally feel kinda weird getting karma for just linking to someone else’s work
I think its fine to gain Karma by virtue of linkposting and being an active forum member, I will not be bothered by it and I think you should not worry about that (although i can understand that it might feel uncomfortable to you). Other people are also allowed to link-post.
Personally when I see a linkpost, I generally assume that the author here is also the original author
I think starting the title with [linkpost] fixes that issue.
Thanks! I basically landed on using my personal account since most people seem to prefer that. I suppose I’ll accept the karma if that’s what everyone else wants! :P
Honestly I think it’s somewhat misleading for me to post with my account because I am posting this in my capacity as part of the Forum Team, even though I’m still an individual making a judgement. It’s like when I get a marketing email signed by “Liz” — probably this is a real person writing the email, but it’s still more the voice of the company than of an individual, so it feels a bit misleading to say it’s from “Liz”. On the other hand, I guess all my Forum content has been in my capacity as part of the Forum Team so no reason to change that now! :)
(I also agree with your points about “LinkpostBot” feeling like it should be an automation, and that having a team account for linkposting runs the risk of making those seem privileged.)
👋 Looks interesting! What do you think about having the title reflect its origins, e.g. “linkpost: Climate Change Is Worse Than Factory Farming”, or “suggested reading: [X]” or something like that?
At a glance right now, the UX here looks like the EA Forum Team is itself endorsing this pretty radical position. (FWIW I appreciate the drive to cross-post interesting material/the broader drive to improve the forum experience, I have been thinking about your other post a bit lately and hope to respond soon)
Gosh yeah that’s reasonable. I was hoping to avoid making another team account to do this kind of crossposting but that’s probably the best solution. I guess it’s time for SummaryBot to get a sibling, maybe LinkpostBot?
I think its best to post this under your own account.
Interesting, why’s that? :)
For context: I want the Forum team to be able to do more active crossposting in the future, so it seems reasonable to have a sort of “placeholder” account for when the author of the original piece doesn’t have a Forum account. Personally when I see a linkpost, I generally assume that the author here is also the original author (outside of obvious cases like a NYT article link), and it’s kinda confusing when that’s not the case (I’m more used to this now but it was extra confusing when I was a new user). I also personally feel kinda weird getting karma for just linking to someone else’s work, and probably don’t want my Forum profile to mostly be links to other articles.
On the other hand, I do want users to feel free to linkpost external articles that they didn’t write, especially if they add their own commentary, or even just make some editorial decisions on which parts to quote. (That’s why I was fine with crossposting this using my own account, for example.)
Caveat: I consider these minor issues, I hope I don’t come across as too accusatory.
It seems that the reason for cross-posting was that you personally found it interesting. If you use the EA forum team account, it sounds a bit like an “official” endorsement, and makes the Forum Team less neutral.
Even if you use another account name (eg “selected linkposts”) that is run by the Forum Team, I think there should be some explanation how those linkposts are selected, otherwise it seems like arbitrarily privileging some stuff over other stuff.
A “LinkpostBot” account would be good if the cross-posting is automated (e.g. every ACX article who mentions Effective Altruism).
I think its fine to gain Karma by virtue of linkposting and being an active forum member, I will not be bothered by it and I think you should not worry about that (although i can understand that it might feel uncomfortable to you). Other people are also allowed to link-post.
I think starting the title with [linkpost] fixes that issue.
Thanks! I basically landed on using my personal account since most people seem to prefer that. I suppose I’ll accept the karma if that’s what everyone else wants! :P
Honestly I think it’s somewhat misleading for me to post with my account because I am posting this in my capacity as part of the Forum Team, even though I’m still an individual making a judgement. It’s like when I get a marketing email signed by “Liz” — probably this is a real person writing the email, but it’s still more the voice of the company than of an individual, so it feels a bit misleading to say it’s from “Liz”. On the other hand, I guess all my Forum content has been in my capacity as part of the Forum Team so no reason to change that now! :)
(I also agree with your points about “LinkpostBot” feeling like it should be an automation, and that having a team account for linkposting runs the risk of making those seem privileged.)
I think that’s a good idea—or just post as yourself (?)
(Ofc I think I and others understand that things are in flux and this is all NBD)