“When I said it’s learnable, I meant learnable in a way that you like it, don’t have motivation problems, aren’t bored, it isn’t sluggish, everything works well.”
Wow, this means you could have an entire class of people, including ones who have trouble with maths (with like say complex equations), and you ’d be able to teach them to do maths in ways they like ? That would be very impressive! I’d like to learn more, do you have sources on that ?
I have multiple types of writing (and videos) related to this:
educational and skill-building materials (e.g. grammar trees, text analysis or tutoring videos)
writing about how learning works (e.g. practice and mastery)
writing about epistemology – key philosophical concepts behind the other stuff
writing about why some opposing views (like genetic IQ) are mistaken
I’ve been developing and debating these ideas for many years, and I don’t know of any refutations or counter-examples to my claims, but I’m not popular/influential and have not gotten very many people to try my ideas much.
In terms of the subject matter itself, math is one of the better starting points. However, people often have some other stuff that gets in the way like issues with procrastination, motivation, project management, sleep schedule, “laziness”, planning ahead, time preference, resource budgeting (including mental energy), self-awareness, emotions, drug use (including caffeine, alcohol or nicotine), or clashes between their conscious ideas and intuitions/subconscious ideas. These things can be disruptive to math learning, so they may need to be addressed first. In other words, if one is conflicted about learning math – if part of them wants to and part doesn’t – then they may need to deal with that before studying math. There are also a lot of people who are mentally tired most of the time and they need to improve that situation rather than undertake a new project involving lots of thinking.
Also most current educational materials for math, like most topics, are not very good. It takes significant skill or help to deal with that.
There is an issue where, basically, most people don’t believe me that I have important knowledge and won’t listen. Initial skepticism is totally reasonable but I think what should happen next, from at least a few people, is a truth seeking process like a debate using rational methods instead of just ignoring something, on the assumption it’s probably wrong, with no attempt to identify any error. That way people can find errors in my ideas, or not, and either way someone can learn something.
Sounds like quite the challenge to learn maths ! I can understand why “you need to be really motivated and allocate a lot of time and resources and to avoid coffee and alcohol and cigarettes and to solve your problems of sleep and procrastination and emotions in order to learn maths” leads to not many people really learning maths !
I wouldn’t count on many people learning these skills in such a context.
And I though the issue was only because the educational material was poor.
Ok, then I’m not sure learning maths is the most valuable use of my time right now. Especially since I mostly aggregate the work of other experts and I let them do the research and the maths in my stead.
(Although I’d still be interested by the links in case that proves necessary for my research at some point in the future. Maybe the “how learning works” material could be of interest too)
I have multiple types of writing (and videos) related to this:
educational and skill-building materials (e.g. grammar trees, text analysis or tutoring videos)
writing about how learning works (e.g. practice and mastery)
writing about epistemology – key philosophical concepts behind the other stuff
writing about why some opposing views (like genetic IQ) are mistaken
I’ve been developing and debating these ideas for many years, and I don’t know of any refutations or counter-examples to my claims, but I’m not popular/influential and have not gotten very many people to try my ideas much.
In terms of the subject matter itself, math is one of the better starting points. However, people often have some other stuff that gets in the way like issues with procrastination, motivation, project management, sleep schedule, “laziness”, planning ahead, time preference, resource budgeting (including mental energy), self-awareness, emotions, drug use (including caffeine, alcohol or nicotine), or clashes between their conscious ideas and intuitions/subconscious ideas. These things can be disruptive to math learning, so they may need to be addressed first. In other words, if one is conflicted about learning math – if part of them wants to and part doesn’t – then they may need to deal with that before studying math. There are also a lot of people who are mentally tired most of the time and they need to improve that situation rather than undertake a new project involving lots of thinking.
Also most current educational materials for math, like most topics, are not very good. It takes significant skill or help to deal with that.
There is an issue where, basically, most people don’t believe me that I have important knowledge and won’t listen. Initial skepticism is totally reasonable but I think what should happen next, from at least a few people, is a truth seeking process like a debate using rational methods instead of just ignoring something, on the assumption it’s probably wrong, with no attempt to identify any error. That way people can find errors in my ideas, or not, and either way someone can learn something.
Sounds like quite the challenge to learn maths ! I can understand why “you need to be really motivated and allocate a lot of time and resources and to avoid coffee and alcohol and cigarettes and to solve your problems of sleep and procrastination and emotions in order to learn maths” leads to not many people really learning maths !
I wouldn’t count on many people learning these skills in such a context.
And I though the issue was only because the educational material was poor.
Ok, then I’m not sure learning maths is the most valuable use of my time right now. Especially since I mostly aggregate the work of other experts and I let them do the research and the maths in my stead.
(Although I’d still be interested by the links in case that proves necessary for my research at some point in the future. Maybe the “how learning works” material could be of interest too)
Each individual thing is a solvable problem. But, yes, I don’t expect many people to solve a long list of problems. But I still claim it is possible.
Here’s some of the info https://criticalfallibilism.com/practice-and-mastery/
Thanks !