In the AI frame I remember reading about 3 situations on the forum (one of which was mechanise). I also consider this to a lesser extent around animal sentience arguments from those deep in the animal welfare world.
the most pertinent example for me would be Anthropic’s top leadership ditching their solid safety plan with clear red lines for a vague and practically useless one, and the justifications by @Holden Karnofsky (who’s wife owns the company) which felt strange to me. He usually makes such compelling arguments, and that one seemed less so. I’m not the most rational person, but Habryka’s arguments against the safety plan change on less wrong were compelling to me.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t argue the object point, but just that we should consider people’s incentives and weight the opinions of those with power/money conflicts of interest somewhat less heavily than those without.
I also consider this to a lesser extent around animal sentience arguments
+1, “it would be very easy for me to ignore the possibility that nematodes might be conscious” is a major impediment to thinking clearly about animal sentience (including for me).
In the AI frame I remember reading about 3 situations on the forum (one of which was mechanise). I also consider this to a lesser extent around animal sentience arguments from those deep in the animal welfare world.
the most pertinent example for me would be Anthropic’s top leadership ditching their solid safety plan with clear red lines for a vague and practically useless one, and the justifications by @Holden Karnofsky (who’s wife owns the company) which felt strange to me. He usually makes such compelling arguments, and that one seemed less so. I’m not the most rational person, but Habryka’s arguments against the safety plan change on less wrong were compelling to me.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t argue the object point, but just that we should consider people’s incentives and weight the opinions of those with power/money conflicts of interest somewhat less heavily than those without.
+1, “it would be very easy for me to ignore the possibility that nematodes might be conscious” is a major impediment to thinking clearly about animal sentience (including for me).