Arguing the object point is useful, and I love to see it done when possible.
Sometimes it is also useful to call out who is making the argument.
I see the argument that AI folks go from safety to capabilities made constantly (ie, every discussion of OpenAI’s origin). It seems correct but neither novel nor controversial in EA/​rat spaces. EX: Habyka’s last point on: https://​​www.lesswrong.com/​​posts/​​MqgwHJ93pJpaeHXs6/​​posts-i-don-t-have-time-to-write
Maybe we are reading different folks though. Do you have specific examples of you making conflict-of-interest arguments and folks on the forum pushing back on you to instead argue the object-level-point?
Arguing the object point is useful, and I love to see it done when possible.
Sometimes it is also useful to call out who is making the argument.
I see the argument that AI folks go from safety to capabilities made constantly (ie, every discussion of OpenAI’s origin). It seems correct but neither novel nor controversial in EA/​rat spaces. EX: Habyka’s last point on: https://​​www.lesswrong.com/​​posts/​​MqgwHJ93pJpaeHXs6/​​posts-i-don-t-have-time-to-write
Maybe we are reading different folks though. Do you have specific examples of you making conflict-of-interest arguments and folks on the forum pushing back on you to instead argue the object-level-point?