Reminder: as you can see by hovering over the upvote and downvote buttons, they are for posts that you do or don’t find “useful”, in the sense of advancing the discussion, not for agreement or disagreement. Consider:
Does the post present new arguments based on evidence and reason?
I hope this response is not discouraging for xccf and Henry. Hugs! And thanks for reminding me of the concept of the Overton bubble!
I upvoted mostly to see how many votes the post has gotten because it was at 0 when I found it. It went from 50% to 52% positive. Wow.
So ignoring for the moment all the half of us readers who upvoted it, I wonder whether the reasons for downvotes are really just split between (1) “this is not a good argument” and (2) “I disagree,” or whether there is also (3) “I’m deluged in arguments like this from most of my friends because they’re just Gray Tribe openness signaling.” I’m not implying that I endorse or reject the first or the last of these reasons; I’m more curious on meta level because I want to signal meta-ness because I’d be confused about what exactly my bubble is if there were few of the last type.
(I don’t feel like I know enough about this to have a strong opinion on the topic, but it’s probably the most detailed article I’ve seen. Thanks!)
I didn’t vote either way as although I think the first part about Trump is actually quite good, the second part doesn’t seem to match long term trends or the experience of the Europeans who have commented and has it’s own filter bubble when picking examples.
If this had been two posts I suspect it would have got a very positive reaction the first, and negative to the second.
Reminder: as you can see by hovering over the upvote and downvote buttons, they are for posts that you do or don’t find “useful”, in the sense of advancing the discussion, not for agreement or disagreement. Consider:
Does the post present new arguments based on evidence and reason?
Are these arguments important if true?
If true, would these arguments alter my behavior?
I hope this response is not discouraging for xccf and Henry. Hugs! And thanks for reminding me of the concept of the Overton bubble!
I upvoted mostly to see how many votes the post has gotten because it was at 0 when I found it. It went from 50% to 52% positive. Wow.
So ignoring for the moment all the half of us readers who upvoted it, I wonder whether the reasons for downvotes are really just split between (1) “this is not a good argument” and (2) “I disagree,” or whether there is also (3) “I’m deluged in arguments like this from most of my friends because they’re just Gray Tribe openness signaling.” I’m not implying that I endorse or reject the first or the last of these reasons; I’m more curious on meta level because I want to signal meta-ness because I’d be confused about what exactly my bubble is if there were few of the last type.
(I don’t feel like I know enough about this to have a strong opinion on the topic, but it’s probably the most detailed article I’ve seen. Thanks!)
I didn’t vote either way as although I think the first part about Trump is actually quite good, the second part doesn’t seem to match long term trends or the experience of the Europeans who have commented and has it’s own filter bubble when picking examples.
If this had been two posts I suspect it would have got a very positive reaction the first, and negative to the second.