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“A few years ago, I began to rethink that approach. More recently, with the input from our board, I now believe we can achieve the foundation’s goals on a shorter timeline, especially if we double down on key investments and provide more certainty to our partners.”
It seems it was more of a question of whether they could grant larger amounts effectively, which he was considering for multiple years (I don’t know how much of that may be possible due to aid cuts).
Is there any data to back up the environmental movement growing and stalling around those times? It may have got a lot of media attention but it seems like the real gains on climate change were made by people who have been working in clean tech for decades and politicians that were already lobbying for various policies in the 2000s/2010s.
I imagine if you work in that field people will show interest in the topic, I’d be interested in if you know there is outsized interest in cultivated meat over other alt proteins.
I’m not sure I see any data in that LinkedIn post, do we know how sales have changed over time and price points for these products? I find this type of data more convincing. I’d be more interested in seeing global info, and looking at sales of various products, in the retail and business sectors to get a good sense of what is actually happening in plant based margarine vs margarine vs butter vs plant based butter market.
The Jacob Peacock article is about them being the same price, not significantly cheaper, which I think is the wrong way to think about it. Most examples historically of animal products being replaced have been because of big cost differences rather than cost parity (horses/cars, whales/oil, fur/other fabrics). That doesn’t mean that people don’t still ride horses, hunt whales or use fur, just that it is a much smaller percentage.
You mention that ‘EA’ should temper it’s enthusiasm for cultivated meat. I’m not sure I have noticed this on the forum or in conversations, or at least not beyond enthusiasm for the idea of alternative proteins in general. Do you have a sense why you think cultivated meat enthusiasm is too high in EA?
I would also be sceptical of having your mind changed via survey data for dietary preferences when people already consume a lot of food that is manufactured in ways they say they are against. I think it would be more important to see whether alternative proteins (including cultivated meat) can become as tasty, convenient and significantly cheaper than animal products.
I think EA and Nazism are quite different (in many ways). EA doesn’t have a membership policy, and EA has a very wide range of philosophies, including opposing views, that people can believe in whilst still doing EA related work (positive vs negative utilitarianism, virtue ethics, deontology, consequentialism, some people care about animals some don’t, a very large range of time discounts, etc).
As in the original article about EA as a question, it makes less sense philosophically and practically to have EA as an identity.
Maybe what you’re noticing is people who haven’t been asked about their ‘EA’ status before, giving the answer they would have always given.
Part of it may be that before FTX there was already a strong norm for people to not identify as EA (EA as a question). And that has only got stronger since. At least in the UK a lot of people working in EA areas wouldn’t call themselves EA including myself, pre 2020.
There has been quite a bit written about democracy, I’m not sure if it fits your description but some of those posts might be related.
Effektiv Spenden also has a ‘Defending Democracy’ fund.
There’s a write up here (if you mean the same thing), but it was about 30 people.
Quite a few development and EA adjacent organisations think AI will be quite important, if not the most important factor for future development. It is already being used by many companies, charities and governments around the world.
IDInsight—Ask-a-Metric: Your AI data analyst on WhatsApp
The Agency Fund—AI for Global Development Accelerator: Introducing our cohort
How AI is driving India’s next agricultural revolution
How Neil King and David Baker are using AI to create more effective vaccines
Kenyan farmers deploying AI to increase productivity
How the farmers without smartphones are using AI
Impact in Global Development: A Discussion Series
Looking into Project 2025: USAID
Another thing to look at would be how donations in general changed in 2020-2024. From what I’ve read, there have been decreases in US giving (of around 2%).
Similar to the reasoning behind Open Phil funding YIMBY groups.
Thanks for this, do you know what process AMF uses to verify the number of people in a house? And if there are any incentives to under/over report.
I have heard anecdotally that there is the opposite problem in Uganda and Burkina Faso.
In Burkina Faso the issue was that GDP per capita numbers were calculated from industrial output divided by population estimates so in order to look good, local government had an incentive to underestimate population so they seemed richer.
Nigeria’s Missing 50 Million People
I’m not sure having a “bigger EA tent” leads to more funding/interest, if anything, people may be less likely to fund/support/be interested in a group that supports many different areas rather than the cause they mainly care about. At least it seems like cause specific orgs get much more funding than multi-cause/EA orgs.
I think this is outside the scope of the book, the example of Operation Desert Storm wasn’t that the general was trying to do the most good, but was given an objective by people higher up (who maybe made mistakes with their own strategic thinking).
I’m not even sure the book would suggest you ignore these externalities if that was the goal you were aiming for, it’s about providing a framework and some tools to help come up with better strategies.
The funding landscape also includes governments funding healthcare in their own countries. And the decisions they make will impact aid choices as well.