I didn’t downvote, but this article definitely would have warranted a downvote if it had been posted directly to the forum; if you think there are a few redeeming sections you should probably highlight them directly rather than asking people to sort through it all.
Mhh, I kind of disagree with the sentiment and assignment of responsibility here.
This is a link post to a critical post on EA-related ideas. I would hope this to spark more or less of an discussion of its merits. I get that some people may be tired of Torres but is this reason enough to actively try to prevent such a discussion? I mean nobody is forced to upvote but downvoting (in particular below 0) does limit the traction this gets from other people. To me this feels like trying to bury voices one doesn’t want to hear, which may be helpful in the short run (less stress) but is probably not the best long term strategy (less understanding).
Also, while I could have picked some ideas and quotes out to elaborate on their potential relevance, I don’t think the fact that I didn’t do this deserves downvoting. A comment asking for a summary or my take on the post would seem like a much more fruitful and adequate response.
Anyway, I get that I am asking for a lot here in terms of civility and critical engagement and that’s maybe unrealistic to expect from an online forum. Going forward, I will adjust my expectations and try to provide more context and explanation when I am posting links to critical content.
To me this feels like trying to bury voices one doesn’t want to hear, which may be helpful in the short run (less stress) but is probably not the best long term strategy (less understanding).
Time and attention are finite; I think a lot people people think they have spent a lot more time reading Torres and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt than they have given to almost anyone else, and a lot more than is deserved by the quality of the content.
I have nothing against that and think it’s a viable position to have if one has actually invested the time to reason through the challenges presented to a degree that they feel comfortable with. I only question whether this justifies downvoting because to some degree it keeps other people from forming their own opinions on the matter.
Maybe our difference in opinion stems from my perception that downvoting is a tool that should be carefully wielded and not be used to simply highlight disagreement. (I mean there is a reason why we have two voting mechanisms for comments after all)
I didn’t downvote, but this article definitely would have warranted a downvote if it had been posted directly to the forum; if you think there are a few redeeming sections you should probably highlight them directly rather than asking people to sort through it all.
Mhh, I kind of disagree with the sentiment and assignment of responsibility here.
This is a link post to a critical post on EA-related ideas. I would hope this to spark more or less of an discussion of its merits. I get that some people may be tired of Torres but is this reason enough to actively try to prevent such a discussion? I mean nobody is forced to upvote but downvoting (in particular below 0) does limit the traction this gets from other people. To me this feels like trying to bury voices one doesn’t want to hear, which may be helpful in the short run (less stress) but is probably not the best long term strategy (less understanding).
Also, while I could have picked some ideas and quotes out to elaborate on their potential relevance, I don’t think the fact that I didn’t do this deserves downvoting. A comment asking for a summary or my take on the post would seem like a much more fruitful and adequate response.
Anyway, I get that I am asking for a lot here in terms of civility and critical engagement and that’s maybe unrealistic to expect from an online forum. Going forward, I will adjust my expectations and try to provide more context and explanation when I am posting links to critical content.
Time and attention are finite; I think a lot people people think they have spent a lot more time reading Torres and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt than they have given to almost anyone else, and a lot more than is deserved by the quality of the content.
I have nothing against that and think it’s a viable position to have if one has actually invested the time to reason through the challenges presented to a degree that they feel comfortable with. I only question whether this justifies downvoting because to some degree it keeps other people from forming their own opinions on the matter.
Maybe our difference in opinion stems from my perception that downvoting is a tool that should be carefully wielded and not be used to simply highlight disagreement. (I mean there is a reason why we have two voting mechanisms for comments after all)