This implies adding 7.2 min (= 5/1000*24*60) of the worst conceivable experience to everyday of your life would make it neutral. Would you really be indifferent between living or not living a life like yours plus 7.2 min of e.g. being burden alive every single day?
Sounds about right. 10 minutes means bad life. 5 minutes means still life worth living.
In any case, the annual disability of farmed animals is much larger than that of humans even for much less variation in the various types of pain.
Good to know. It mostly makes a difference for humans and cows coming from ~0 to ~5% of disability in your model it seems?
And I appreciate you continuing to bang the drum for animal welfare stuff. It’s made me think about it more.
Sounds about right. 10 minutes means bad life. 5 minutes means still life worth living.
Then we just have very different intuitions.
Good to know. It mostly makes a difference for humans and cows coming from ~0 to ~5% of disability in your model it seems?
Yes, mostly that. I did not rely on data from WFP to model the annual disability of humans and cows, so their annual disability remained the same. The annual disability of the other groups decreased because of the lower weight of extreme suffering. Below is a table with the original assumptions and the ones I mentioned in my last comment.
Group
Annual disability as a fraction of the total
Original assumptions
Assumptions of the last comment
Humans
0.489%
3.14%
Farmed cows
0.430%
2.77%
Farmed pigs
1.88%
1.71%
Farmed broilers (chickens)
29.3%
29.0%
Farmed hens (chickens)
5.52%
6.73%
Farmed fish
31.6%
28.7%
Farmed decapod shrimp
26.6%
24.2%
Farmed insects
4.19%
3.81%
And I appreciate you continuing to bang the drum for animal welfare stuff. It’s made me think about it more.
Sounds about right. 10 minutes means bad life. 5 minutes means still life worth living.
Good to know. It mostly makes a difference for humans and cows coming from ~0 to ~5% of disability in your model it seems?
And I appreciate you continuing to bang the drum for animal welfare stuff. It’s made me think about it more.
Then we just have very different intuitions.
Yes, mostly that. I did not rely on data from WFP to model the annual disability of humans and cows, so their annual disability remained the same. The annual disability of the other groups decreased because of the lower weight of extreme suffering. Below is a table with the original assumptions and the ones I mentioned in my last comment.
Humans0.489%3.14%Farmed cows0.430%2.77%Farmed pigs1.88%1.71%Farmed broilers (chickens)29.3%29.0%Farmed hens (chickens)5.52%6.73%Farmed fish31.6%28.7%Farmed decapod shrimp26.6%24.2%Farmed insects4.19%3.81%Thanks! I appreciate the support too.