I don’t know, this sounds to me like treating employees at EA organizations as children that have to be protected from “convincing misinformation”. My employees are totally capable of handling headhunters trying to convince them, and I think most other people in EA are too. These people are not children, and it’s not my right or job as an employer to protect them from harmful-to-me-seeming information, especially when I am obviously in a massive conflict of interest in regard to that information.
Perhaps obvious, but while I agree that your employer should not make it their business to protect you from misinformation of this kind, I still think that anyone who spread genuinely “convincing misinformation” would be doing something wrong and should stop.
(I’m not necessarily expecting people to agree on whether a given headhunting pitch is misinformation or not, but in cases where it is, that’s obviously a problem.)
I feel like the original post was complaining about recruiting specifically as an injury to the current employer. If the claim is “EA orgs are lying during recruitment” that’s a huge problem no matter where they are recruiting from.
Wasn’t part of the general objection early on to Leverage over them appearing to ~headhunt (I don’t know details) from other orgs like MIRI? (That very well may not be part of your issues with them though?)
Indeed, I think that criticism (as well as the criticism that they recruited donors away from other organizations) was quite unjustified (and I contributed somewhat to it a few years ago).
I don’t know, this sounds to me like treating employees at EA organizations as children that have to be protected from “convincing misinformation”. My employees are totally capable of handling headhunters trying to convince them, and I think most other people in EA are too. These people are not children, and it’s not my right or job as an employer to protect them from harmful-to-me-seeming information, especially when I am obviously in a massive conflict of interest in regard to that information.
Perhaps obvious, but while I agree that your employer should not make it their business to protect you from misinformation of this kind, I still think that anyone who spread genuinely “convincing misinformation” would be doing something wrong and should stop.
(I’m not necessarily expecting people to agree on whether a given headhunting pitch is misinformation or not, but in cases where it is, that’s obviously a problem.)
I feel like the original post was complaining about recruiting specifically as an injury to the current employer. If the claim is “EA orgs are lying during recruitment” that’s a huge problem no matter where they are recruiting from.
Wasn’t part of the general objection early on to Leverage over them appearing to ~headhunt (I don’t know details) from other orgs like MIRI? (That very well may not be part of your issues with them though?)
Indeed, I think that criticism (as well as the criticism that they recruited donors away from other organizations) was quite unjustified (and I contributed somewhat to it a few years ago).