haha I can confirm I did not karma knock you and I was kind of surprised you had gotten so downvoted! I actually upvoted when I saw that to counteract.
One random thought Iāll add is that since you are most experienced (afaict?) in ghd, Iād expect your arguments to be at their best in that context, so you getting upvoted on GHD and downvoted on AW is at least consistent with having more expertise in one than the other, so not necessarily evidence that AW folks are more sensitive. Although Iām not ruling that out!
The other thing Iām not sure I understand is how much weight a single individualās downvote can haveāis there any chance that a few AW people have a ton of karma here, so that just a few people downvoting can take you negative in a way that wouldnāt happen as much in GHD?
Yes my GHW comments are surely better, but i doubt that accounts for much of the issue. getting little attention because of low quality comments is one thing, getting a bunch of active down voting is another.
thanks @mal_grahamšø Iāve been part off a bunch of animal welfare discussions, and it has been a consistent pattern over the last couple of years. And not only for my comments but others tooāif someone pushes back thereās a good chance they will get knocked even if they make a fair point. Iām a bit more belligerent than most, to but i think the consequence is that animal welfare discussions become more echo chambery than the average on the forum because it can be pretty discouraging to have a contrarian view
The karma vote strength hierarchy is explained here. If you go here and sort by karma, you can see who on the forum has the most. The most karma anybody has is in the 25,000 to 50,000 bracket ā and thatās just one person, Linch, with around 27,600. So, Linchās strong karma votes are worth 10 points (or ā10). Most of the ākarma bourgeoisā are in the 8 point and 9 point brackets.[1]
Something I only just learned yesterday is that you hover over the karma on a comment or post (on desktop) or tap it (on mobile), it tells you how many people actually voted!
Although I do see there is an option in settings to hide yourself from the people directory, so I guess itās possible some karma rich people are hiding themselves.
The other thing Iām not sure I understand is how much weight a single individualās downvote can haveāis there any chance that a few AW people have a ton of karma here, so that just a few people downvoting can take you negative in a way that wouldnāt happen as much in GHD?
Itās probably the strong downvote of one single user (especially given that there were only two disagree votes and one of them was mine). If I strongly downvote the same comment, it goes from 0 to ā5 karma! (and I donāt think Iām a gigantic outlier karma monster).
haha I can confirm I did not karma knock you and I was kind of surprised you had gotten so downvoted! I actually upvoted when I saw that to counteract.
One random thought Iāll add is that since you are most experienced (afaict?) in ghd, Iād expect your arguments to be at their best in that context, so you getting upvoted on GHD and downvoted on AW is at least consistent with having more expertise in one than the other, so not necessarily evidence that AW folks are more sensitive. Although Iām not ruling that out!
The other thing Iām not sure I understand is how much weight a single individualās downvote can haveāis there any chance that a few AW people have a ton of karma here, so that just a few people downvoting can take you negative in a way that wouldnāt happen as much in GHD?
Yes my GHW comments are surely better, but i doubt that accounts for much of the issue. getting little attention because of low quality comments is one thing, getting a bunch of active down voting is another.
thanks @mal_grahamšø Iāve been part off a bunch of animal welfare discussions, and it has been a consistent pattern over the last couple of years. And not only for my comments but others tooāif someone pushes back thereās a good chance they will get knocked even if they make a fair point. Iām a bit more belligerent than most, to but i think the consequence is that animal welfare discussions become more echo chambery than the average on the forum because it can be pretty discouraging to have a contrarian view
The karma vote strength hierarchy is explained here. If you go here and sort by karma, you can see who on the forum has the most. The most karma anybody has is in the 25,000 to 50,000 bracket ā and thatās just one person, Linch, with around 27,600. So, Linchās strong karma votes are worth 10 points (or ā10). Most of the ākarma bourgeoisā are in the 8 point and 9 point brackets.[1]
Something I only just learned yesterday is that you hover over the karma on a comment or post (on desktop) or tap it (on mobile), it tells you how many people actually voted!
Although I do see there is an option in settings to hide yourself from the people directory, so I guess itās possible some karma rich people are hiding themselves.
Itās probably the strong downvote of one single user (especially given that there were only two disagree votes and one of them was mine). If I strongly downvote the same comment, it goes from 0 to ā5 karma! (and I donāt think Iām a gigantic outlier karma monster).