meta-commentary for anyone in community building, on why people may opt out of engaging...
I’m not trying to stoke flames here with my post, and one reason I don’t engage much on the forum anymore is the strength of pushback I get for asking what I considered to be an earnest simple commentary/question.
A common vibe is that the movement seems to have a strong defense to any thing remotely perceived as a criticism. Per a below comment, grandstanding on not making an assumption about the movies is implying that I’m wrong to be worried… but I’ve been watching the development of these projects since they were announced back in 2023 (along with other AI projects out of personal interest in film/entertainment).
I’m not brashly lashing out at these films after having just learned about them five minutes ago.… I’ve been waiting for it to be brought up and I haven’t seen any comment across various channels (forums, twitter, blogs etc) so I figured I’d raise a hand and ask “is anyone else worried about this?”
For all the talk about learning from FTX and foresight, it seems odd that this hasn’t been mentioned. If I’m wrong to ask those questions, let me know and I’ll happily find an exit. After 10 years in this movement, every time I try to earnestly engage (in the only way I can right now, via the forum) I’m immediately met with what feels like premature suspicion/defensive rejection.
I’m all for debating ideas, but I guess some things should only be brought up in person conversations or not at all. For an autistic person it’s very hard to discern how to engage with EA because these social rules/norms of interacting are non-obvious.
I appreciate that and it’s not just you, it’s the immediate downvoting and pushback in the comments—all of which give the subtext of “you’re wrong to think this way” without any effort to engage/ask questions. If you’re too busy to engage fully, then maybe don’t comment/vote.
I thought your referencing scientology was a tad ironic; the amount of behaviors EAs have done over the last 10 years are what have created the cult narrative around us. It’s the immediate defensiveness against your own kind, someone who identifies with the movement, instead of working to see their perspective or explain your perspective in a kinder tone that’s problematic.
meta-commentary for anyone in community building, on why people may opt out of engaging...
I’m not trying to stoke flames here with my post, and one reason I don’t engage much on the forum anymore is the strength of pushback I get for asking what I considered to be an earnest simple commentary/question.
A common vibe is that the movement seems to have a strong defense to any thing remotely perceived as a criticism. Per a below comment, grandstanding on not making an assumption about the movies is implying that I’m wrong to be worried… but I’ve been watching the development of these projects since they were announced back in 2023 (along with other AI projects out of personal interest in film/entertainment).
I’m not brashly lashing out at these films after having just learned about them five minutes ago.… I’ve been waiting for it to be brought up and I haven’t seen any comment across various channels (forums, twitter, blogs etc) so I figured I’d raise a hand and ask “is anyone else worried about this?”
For all the talk about learning from FTX and foresight, it seems odd that this hasn’t been mentioned. If I’m wrong to ask those questions, let me know and I’ll happily find an exit. After 10 years in this movement, every time I try to earnestly engage (in the only way I can right now, via the forum) I’m immediately met with what feels like premature suspicion/defensive rejection.
I’m all for debating ideas, but I guess some things should only be brought up in person conversations or not at all. For an autistic person it’s very hard to discern how to engage with EA because these social rules/norms of interacting are non-obvious.
I’m sorry if I came off too harsh with my comment, if you were referring to me. How could I have phrased my points better?
I appreciate that and it’s not just you, it’s the immediate downvoting and pushback in the comments—all of which give the subtext of “you’re wrong to think this way” without any effort to engage/ask questions. If you’re too busy to engage fully, then maybe don’t comment/vote.
I thought your referencing scientology was a tad ironic; the amount of behaviors EAs have done over the last 10 years are what have created the cult narrative around us. It’s the immediate defensiveness against your own kind, someone who identifies with the movement, instead of working to see their perspective or explain your perspective in a kinder tone that’s problematic.