Haven’t had a chance to listen to your talk which might clear this up but while “don’t select on the correlates” does technically capture Rohin’s point, it doesn’t really resonate with me as making the point in a more crisp way, especially when contrasted with being welcoming.
I think one of the more insidious features of the type of phenomenon Rohin’s talking about is that, from the inside, it doesn’t FEEL like you’re making a selection at all. Indeed, apparently EA Berkeley’s intentional/explicit attempts at selection were basically random—selecting for almost nothing other than altruism. But, despite the lack of explicit selection, there was still a selection effect.
Asking people to do selection differently feels pretty far removed from the actual actions (if any) we might want someone to take if a lot of those people don’t by default feel like they’re doing selection at all.
Haven’t had a chance to listen to your talk which might clear this up but while “don’t select on the correlates” does technically capture Rohin’s point, it doesn’t really resonate with me as making the point in a more crisp way, especially when contrasted with being welcoming.
I think one of the more insidious features of the type of phenomenon Rohin’s talking about is that, from the inside, it doesn’t FEEL like you’re making a selection at all. Indeed, apparently EA Berkeley’s intentional/explicit attempts at selection were basically random—selecting for almost nothing other than altruism. But, despite the lack of explicit selection, there was still a selection effect.
Asking people to do selection differently feels pretty far removed from the actual actions (if any) we might want someone to take if a lot of those people don’t by default feel like they’re doing selection at all.