If someone wants to use a chatbot to research EA-endorsed charities they might be interested in donating to, they can just describe to ChatGPT or Claude what they want to know and ask the bot to search the EA Forum and other EA-related websites for info.
they can just describe to ChatGPT or Claude what they want to know and ask the bot to search the EA Forum and other EA-related websites for info.
I feel like you’ve written a dozen posts at this point explaining why this isn’t a good idea. LLM’s are still very unreliable, the best way to find out what people in EA believe is to ask.
With regards to the ranking of charities, I think it would be totally fine if there were 15 different versions rankings out there. It would allow people to get a feel for what people with different worldviews value and agree or disagree on. I think this would be preferable to having just one “official” ranking, as there’s no way to take into account massive worldview differences into that.
But let’s imagine that I am a newly minted hundred millionaire. If there were Qualy, a well trusted LLM that would link to pages in the EA corpus and answer questions, I might chat to it a bit?
I agree chatbots are not to be trusted to do research or analysis, but I was imagining someone using a chatbot as a search engine, to just get a list of charities that they could then read about.
I think 15 different lists or rankings or aggregations would be fine too.
If a millionaire asked me right now for a big list of EA-related charities, I would give them the donation election list. And if they wanted to know the EA community’s ranking, I guess I would show them the results of the donation election. (Although I think those are hidden for the moment and we’re waiting on an announcement post.)
Maybe a bunch of people should write their own personal rankings.
Someone should make a Tier List template for EA charities. Something like this:
(XKCD: Standards)
If someone wants to use a chatbot to research EA-endorsed charities they might be interested in donating to, they can just describe to ChatGPT or Claude what they want to know and ask the bot to search the EA Forum and other EA-related websites for info.
I feel like you’ve written a dozen posts at this point explaining why this isn’t a good idea. LLM’s are still very unreliable, the best way to find out what people in EA believe is to ask.
With regards to the ranking of charities, I think it would be totally fine if there were 15 different versions rankings out there. It would allow people to get a feel for what people with different worldviews value and agree or disagree on. I think this would be preferable to having just one “official” ranking, as there’s no way to take into account massive worldview differences into that.
I was responding to this part:
I agree chatbots are not to be trusted to do research or analysis, but I was imagining someone using a chatbot as a search engine, to just get a list of charities that they could then read about.
I think 15 different lists or rankings or aggregations would be fine too.
If a millionaire asked me right now for a big list of EA-related charities, I would give them the donation election list. And if they wanted to know the EA community’s ranking, I guess I would show them the results of the donation election. (Although I think those are hidden for the moment and we’re waiting on an announcement post.)
Maybe a bunch of people should write their own personal rankings.
Someone should make a Tier List template for EA charities. Something like this:
Yeah I’m making something like that :)
I do not see 14 charity ranking tools. I don’t really think I see 2? What, other than asking claude/chatGPT/gemini are you suggesting?
You know what, I don’t mean to discourage you from your project. Go for it.