This post falls into a pretty common Internet failure mode, which is so ubiquitous outside of this forum that itâs easy to not realise that any mistake has even been madeâafter all, everyone talks like this. Specifically, you donât seem to consider whether your argument would convince someone who genuinely believes these views. I am only going to agree with your answer to your trolley problem if I am already convinced invertebrates have no moral value...and in that case, I donât need this post to convince me that invertebrate welfare is counterproductive. There isnât any argument for why someone who does not currently agree with you should change their mind.
It is worth considering what specific reasons people who care about invertebrate reasoning have, and trying to answer those views directly. This requires putting yourself in their shoes and trying to understand why they might consider invertebrates to have actual moral worth.
âSo whatâs the problem? Why donât I just let the invertebrate-lovers go do their thing, while I do mine? The problem is that those arguing for the invertebrate cause as an issue of moral importance have brought bad arguments to the table.â
This is much more promising, and Iâd like to see actual discussion of what these arguments are, and why theyâre bad.
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This post falls into a pretty common Internet failure mode, which is so ubiquitous outside of this forum that itâs easy to not realise that any mistake has even been madeâafter all, everyone talks like this. Specifically, you donât seem to consider whether your argument would convince someone who genuinely believes these views. I am only going to agree with your answer to your trolley problem if I am already convinced invertebrates have no moral value...and in that case, I donât need this post to convince me that invertebrate welfare is counterproductive. There isnât any argument for why someone who does not currently agree with you should change their mind.
It is worth considering what specific reasons people who care about invertebrate reasoning have, and trying to answer those views directly. This requires putting yourself in their shoes and trying to understand why they might consider invertebrates to have actual moral worth.
âSo whatâs the problem? Why donât I just let the invertebrate-lovers go do their thing, while I do mine? The problem is that those arguing for the invertebrate cause as an issue of moral importance have brought bad arguments to the table.â
This is much more promising, and Iâd like to see actual discussion of what these arguments are, and why theyâre bad.
wonderfully welcoming comment, @Jay Bailey! :)