Agree-vote (✅) with this comment if you are overall optimistic about the test that we’re outlining in the post (e.g. because you think we’ll find out something useful, or because you think that the change will likely be helpful).
Disagree-vote (❎) if you’re overall pessimistic about the test.
Please use normal-strength votes (we’ll check for strong-agree-votes and cancel them). (We’re posting two comments as a quick poll to get a sense of what people who might be less comfortable commenting think. Please note that we won’t defer entirely to the results of these polls. See the other comment.)
I think @ChanaMessinger makes a reasonable case that strong votes are much less reasonable in regard to agree/disagreevotes. If you think so here, maybe we shouldn’t get them in general. I’m pretty ambivolent.
I’ve told the LW admins before that I wish there weren’t a way to strong-agree or strong-disagree. Or, alternatively, I wish there were hover text that lets you see how many people have strong-agreed vs. weak-agreed vs. weak-disagreed vs. strong-disagreed.
I think ideally I’d also like to see a breakdown into karma buckets, so you can explicitly see how many veteran users vs. new users agreed or disagreed, as opposed to veteran users just quietly getting more voting power.
Maybe something like three buckets: one for people who (based on their karma) probably are pretty new to the forum (or post pretty low-quality stuff), one for veteran users with tons of karma, and one for users who are somewhere in the middle. E.g., an image that shows up when you hover, like (imagining a hypothetical comment with net 12 agreevotes):
(Obviously all of this would have to be only for future votes, not past ones, since people didn’t make their past agreevotes with an expectation that this would be public info.)
I don’t have a strong view one way or another on the topic of whether you should be able to use strong-agree-votes anywhere. I don’t know what others on the team think.
I’m quite excited about potentially developing or otherwise adding an easy-to-use poll feature on the Forum, though. It’s not an obvious part of any of our major projects for the near future, though, and it’s not clear to me that it’s worth prioritizing over other improvements (in part because I don’t know how much use it would get), so I don’t know when exactly we might get to it, if ever — but this is something that would make me personally happy.
That’s interesting, I’d have thought they are more necessary with agree/disagree. Because people with more karma may be more likely to better informed about the topic? But then again people with more karma are also more informed on forum and epistemic norms (upvote/downvote dichotomy?) So maybe both are important
I’m in favor of a weekly cap on how frequently users can use their strongvotes though!
To me it also seems that agree/disagree should be on the left and upvote/downvote on the right. If people are only going to vote on thing, they should prob vote on whether they think the statement is correct, right?
Agree-vote (✅) with this comment if you are overall optimistic about the test that we’re outlining in the post (e.g. because you think we’ll find out something useful, or because you think that the change will likely be helpful).
Disagree-vote (❎) if you’re overall pessimistic about the test.
Please use normal-strength votes (we’ll check for strong-agree-votes and cancel them). (We’re posting two comments as a quick poll to get a sense of what people who might be less comfortable commenting think. Please note that we won’t defer entirely to the results of these polls. See the other comment.)
I think @ChanaMessinger makes a reasonable case that strong votes are much less reasonable in regard to agree/disagreevotes. If you think so here, maybe we shouldn’t get them in general. I’m pretty ambivolent.
I’ve told the LW admins before that I wish there weren’t a way to strong-agree or strong-disagree. Or, alternatively, I wish there were hover text that lets you see how many people have strong-agreed vs. weak-agreed vs. weak-disagreed vs. strong-disagreed.
I think ideally I’d also like to see a breakdown into karma buckets, so you can explicitly see how many veteran users vs. new users agreed or disagreed, as opposed to veteran users just quietly getting more voting power.
Maybe something like three buckets: one for people who (based on their karma) probably are pretty new to the forum (or post pretty low-quality stuff), one for veteran users with tons of karma, and one for users who are somewhere in the middle. E.g., an image that shows up when you hover, like (imagining a hypothetical comment with net 12 agreevotes):
(Obviously all of this would have to be only for future votes, not past ones, since people didn’t make their past agreevotes with an expectation that this would be public info.)
I don’t have a strong view one way or another on the topic of whether you should be able to use strong-agree-votes anywhere. I don’t know what others on the team think.
I’m quite excited about potentially developing or otherwise adding an easy-to-use poll feature on the Forum, though. It’s not an obvious part of any of our major projects for the near future, though, and it’s not clear to me that it’s worth prioritizing over other improvements (in part because I don’t know how much use it would get), so I don’t know when exactly we might get to it, if ever — but this is something that would make me personally happy.
That’s interesting, I’d have thought they are more necessary with agree/disagree. Because people with more karma may be more likely to better informed about the topic? But then again people with more karma are also more informed on forum and epistemic norms (upvote/downvote dichotomy?) So maybe both are important
I’m in favor of a weekly cap on how frequently users can use their strongvotes though!
To me it also seems that agree/disagree should be on the left and upvote/downvote on the right. If people are only going to vote on thing, they should prob vote on whether they think the statement is correct, right?