Eleos Arete Citrini

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[to be updated] I am a final-year political science (major) and philosophy (minor) bachelor student at the University of Zurich. I am a member of the Swiss Study Foundation and hold a conditional offer for Cambridge’s MPhil in Ethics of AI, Data and Algorithms. Discovering that there is a global community of people seeking to identify and implement the most promising ways to help others has transformed my life; I have been fascinated by this philosophy and social movement of EA since early 2020. Spending a lot of time exploring questions about suffering, the future, and uncertainty, I aspire to a career in global priorities research and AI governance, conducting research and policy entrepreneurship with a focus on avoiding worst-case scenarios.

– resume
– LinkedIn profile
– EA Hub profile
– admonymous (for giving me anonymous feedback on anything)
– Animal Welfare Library – co-created with Arvo Muñoz Morán
– selected blog post: powerful quotes I keep contemplating

I occasionally post stuff I find interesting and important on facebook (and here on the EA Forum).
Get in touch: eleos.citrini@gmail.com :)

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my key intellectual interests (present ± a few years):

Hundreds of intellectual interests have accumulated over the last few years. Among the issues I have been most excited about in the last few years (having become varyingly hardly to somewhat or maybe moderately versed) and/or would most like to investigate in the next few years are the following, grouped into three broad clusters:

– the philosophy, politics, economics, and science of (emerging) technologies and the long-term future of Earth-originating life:

– s-risks and x-risks
– governance incl. ethics of AI, AI value alignment, and technical AI safety
– game theory of cooperation and conflict in the context of AI
– non-human sentience & sapience and moral circle expansion
– governance incl. ethics of biotechnologies, esp. transhumanism
– governance incl. ethics of outer space, esp. space colonisation
– cluelessness about and forecasting the long-term future
– the intersection of science fiction, technology, natural and social sciences, and philosophy
– futurology, progress studies, and macrostrategy
– longtermism(s) in theory and practice

– the philosophy, politics, economics, and science of belief formation, identity, and decision-making:

– decision theory and game theory
– decision-theoretic fanaticism, risk aversion, and bounded rationality
– formal epistemology and Bayesianism
– social epistemology, communication, and cognitive biases
– institutional decision-making, international relations, and global governance
– incentive structures, collective action problems, and complexity science
– egoism & altruism and dark tetrad traits, esp. re leadership
– the intersection of evolutionary psychology, moral psychology, and moral epistemology
– moral agency and moral patiency in humans and non-humans
– philosophy and psychology of self and human nature

– (more) topics in moral philosophy:

– ethical issues in effective altruism and global priorities research
– moral uncertainty and value theory
– animal ethics
– suffering-focused ethics
– population ethics and ethics of the future
– risk ethics
– consequentialist alternatives to utilitarianism
– scope-sensitive alternatives to consequentialism
– eudaimonia, enkrateia, and arete
– metaethics

Announcing the Animal Welfare Library 🦉

arvomm17 May 2023 17:07 UTC

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Eleos Arete Citrini 13 Oct 2022 21:47 UTC
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on: Getting on a different train: can Effective Altruism avoid collapsing into absurdity?
Wow, this provided me with a lot of food for thought. For me personally, this was definitely one of the most simultaneously intriguing and relatable things I’ve ever read on the EA forum.

Eleos Arete Citrini 1 Oct 2022 20:35 UTC
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on: ETGP 2022: materials, feedback, and lessons for 2023
So many of these topics seem really interesting to me personally that your saying “It was designed primarily for economics graduate students considering careers in global priorities research.” made me wonder: Is there something similar for people with a less robust background in economics? Maybe for economics (or political science) undergraduate students? :)

Switzerland fails to ban factory farming – lessons for the pursuit of EA-inspired policies?

Eleos Arete Citrini25 Sep 2022 19:25 UTC

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Eleos Arete Citrini 10 Aug 2022 19:49 UTC
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in reply to: Devin Kalish’s comment on: Cover story on EA in Time magazine
Agreed! I’ve just read the articles you mentioned today and really liked them. Links:

vox article by Dylan Matthews: “How effective altruism went from a niche movement to a billion-dollar force – Effective altruism has gone mainstream. Where does that leave it?”

New Yorker article by Gideon Lewis-Kraus: “The Reluctant Prophet of Effective Altruism – William MacAskill’s movement set out to help the global poor. Now his followers fret about runaway A.I. Have they seen our threats clearly, or lost their way?”

Eleos Arete Citrini 30 Jul 2022 13:14 UTC
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on: EA Dedicates
One major difference is between people who care about multiple things and people who have decided that their life’s work should be world improvement.
Does the first rule out the second? And does the second rule out the first?

Eleos Arete Citrini 22 May 2022 23:40 UTC
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in reply to: Severin’s comment on: The Berlin Hub: Longtermist co-living space (plan)
Oh wow, thank you for this elaborate response!
FWIW, I don’t think nr 2 is a big negative, if it’s a net negative at all.
Does that answer your question, does it raise more?
Yes, it answers my question. And no, it didn’t raise more, at least for the moment.

Eleos Arete Citrini 14 May 2022 9:48 UTC
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on: The Berlin Hub: Longtermist co-living space (plan)
This sounds super cool! Reading the full post, I got the (maybe unqualified) impression that a lot of thought went into making this robust and making it work well.

Not only has CEEALAR’s hotel successfully been running for almost four years by now. In addition, they were facing significant hurdles we don’t expect to impinge on our own project: [...]

Reading this makes me optimistic about both the future of CEEALAR’s hotel and also the Berlin hub. But I also wonder whether there’re factors / hurdles that CEEALAR hasn’t faced that you expect the Berlin hub might face.. What do you think?

Eleos Arete Citrini 14 May 2022 9:12 UTC
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on: Future Matters: April 2022
I’m super excited about this! This newsletter is very valuable for me: I often find myself saving a link or two for later (that I might perhaps get around to someday) when reading an EA forum post, but here, there were five resources you linked to that I’ve just scheduled time to read / check out.

Also, I found the interview really interesting – fanaticism in decision theory and ethics is one of my key uncertainties re “putting ethics into practice, knowing about longtermism” and global priorities research. To make things even more.. frightening(?), I’m not sure how much taking moral uncertainty into account could help against fanaticism.. Fanaticism is certainly a thorny issue, so I’m glad there seems to be increasingly much research being done on that front.

One more point of feedback: In a comment on the March 2022 edition, someone mentioned they think it’s too long for a newsletter. I personally think otherwise, so consider this one vote *against* trying to make the newsletter shorter. :)

Eleos Arete Citrini 21 Mar 2022 15:55 UTC
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on: The longtermist AI governance landscape: a basic overview
I am very new to AI governance and this post helped me a lot in getting a better sense of “what’s out there”, thank you! Now, what I’m about to say isn’t meant so much as “I felt this was lacking in your post” but more as simply “reading this made me wonder about something”: What about AI governance focused on s-risks instead of only/mostly x-risks? The London-based Center on Long-Term Risk (CLR) conducts pertinent work on the foundational end of the spectrum (see their priority areas). Which other organisations are (at least partly) working on AI governance focused on s-risks?

Eleos Arete Citrini 3 Mar 2022 9:23 UTC
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on: 23 career choice heuristics
I really like this list and think it will be helpful for me!
Do you have thoughts on the relative importance of these various heuristics? Maybe something like a heuristic for which heuristics are most important for one’s situation?

Also, you wrote:
Scale, number helped—do something that impacts many people positively
Scale, degree helped—do something that impacts people to a great positive degree
I’d like to point out that “people” doesn’t quite capture who EA is trying to help (considering that we strive to do what’s impartially good, we arguably ought to reject speciesism and substratism, thus also taking into consideration minds that are non-human and/or digital and/or ”???”).
I’m not sure what’s the best term to use (also depends on the situation in which you use one of the terms), but “sentient beings” / “sentient minds” / “moral patients” seem like terms that better capture what EA as a community is concerned with.

Eleos Arete Citrini 7 Jan 2022 14:01 UTC
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on: The case against degrowth
I really liked your clear outline on your position, and this definitely contained some food for thought that I found to be nicely presented. That being said, I am still much more agnostic re which position to take (esp. after reading some of the comments here) than you seem to be. You wrote:
Third, degrowthers argue that technological innovations do not allow for a sufficient decoupling between GDP and environmental impacts. But they neglect that a decoupling between economic wealth (GDP) and well-being is less realistic.
Maybe this is misguided, but why not attempt to pursue both in a twin strategy?
What if both decouplings are insufficient on their own but sufficient when combined?
This also ties in to a concept I’ve come across recently: agrowth.
Quoted from The new theory of economic ‘agrowth’ contributes to the viability of climate policies:
“One can be concerned or critical about economic growth without resorting to an anti-growth position,” states the author [Jeroen van den Bergh]. He goes on to highlight that an “agrowth” strategy will allow us to scan a wider space for policies that improve welfare and environmental conditions. Policy selection will not be constrained by the goal of economic growth. “One does not need to assume that unemployment, inequity and environmental challenges are solved by unconditional pro- or zero/negative growth. Social and environmental policies sometimes restrain and at other times stimulate growth, depending on contextual factors. An “agrowth” strategy is precautionary as it makes society less sensitive to potential scenarios in which climate policy constrains economic growth. Hence, it will reduce resistance to such policy,” he indicates.
In a practical sense, van den Bergh states that it is necessary to combat the social belief—widespread among policy circles and politics—that growth has to be prioritized, and stresses the need for a debate in politics and wider society about stepping outside the futile framing of pro- versus anti-growth. “Realizing there is a third way can help to overcome current polarization and weaken political resistance against a serious climate policy.”

Philosophy event series introducing EA at the University of Zurich

Eleos Arete Citrini4 Jan 2022 12:49 UTC

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Eleos Arete Citrini 4 Jan 2022 12:30 UTC
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on: Have you considered switching countries to save money?
My brief research several months ago led me to believe that if I ever were to move to South America, it would probably be Uruguay. It’s the most Swiss-like country there by far (I’ve lived in Switzerland all my life and think that I wouldn’t be happy for long in a country that is too different from Switzerland). From wikipedia:
Uruguay is a developed country with a high-income economy, and is ranked first in Latin America in democracy, peace, low perception of corruption,^[11] and e-government.^[12]^[13] It is first in South America when it comes to press freedom, size of the middle class, and prosperity.^[11] On a per-capita basis, Uruguay contributes more troops to United Nations peacekeeping missions than any other country.^[11] It is the lowest ranking South American nation in the Global Terrorism Index, and ranks second in the continent on economic freedom, income equality, per-capita income, and inflows of FDI.^[11] Uruguay is the third-best country on the continent in terms of Human Development Index, GDP growth,^[14] innovation, and infrastructure.^[11] Uruguay is regarded as one of the most socially progressive countries in Latin America.^[15] It ranks high on global measures of personal rights, tolerance, and inclusion issues,^[16] including its acceptance of the LGBT community.^[17] The country has legalized cannabis, same-sex marriage and abortion. Uruguay is a founding member of the United Nations, OAS and Mercosur.

Eleos Arete Citrini 30 Dec 2021 10:56 UTC
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on: What is the best press out there on Effective Altruism?
My favourite press article on EA is probably Zachary Pincus Roth’s Washington Post article from September 23, 2020, titled “The Rise of the Rational Do-Gooders”. There’s a few things I like about it that I haven’t found in a large share of the many other such articles I’ve read and nothing that I particularly dislike about it.

Eleos Arete Citrini 19 Sep 2021 16:54 UTC
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in reply to: WSCFriedman’s comment on: [Creative writing contest] Blue bird and black bird
To me, this comment exemplifies what I have in mind when I emphasise that negative feedback should be honest but also delivered in a compassionate manner. :) And I also liked that you shared some of the investigation of your reaction to it!

Eleos Arete Citrini 16 Sep 2021 14:01 UTC
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in reply to: kyle_fish’s comment on: Cultured meat predictions were overly optimistic
I’ve also wondered what reasons there might be for the apparent discrepancy between these predictions and reality. I feel like the point re technical problems you emphasised is probably among the most important ones. My first thought was a different one, though: wishful thinking. Perhaps wishful thinking re clean meat timelines is an important factor for explaining the apparently bad track record of pertinent predictions. My rationale for wishful thinking potentially being an important explanation is that, in my impression, clean meat, even more so than many other technologies, is tied very closely/viscerally to something – factory farming – a considerable share (I’d guess?) of people working on it deem a moral catastrophe.

Eleos Arete Citrini 16 Sep 2021 10:35 UTC
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on: [Creative Writing Contest] [Fiction] The Reset Button
Wow, … this was powerful, … and moving!

The Metaethics and Normative Ethics of AGI Value Alignment: Many Questions, Some Implications

Eleos Arete Citrini15 Sep 2021 19:05 UTC

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Resources on Animal Ethics and Helping Animals

Eleos Arete Citrini10 Sep 2021 23:22 UTC

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Eleos Arete Citrini

An­nounc­ing the An­i­mal Welfare Library 🦉

Switzer­land fails to ban fac­tory farm­ing – les­sons for the pur­suit of EA-in­spired poli­cies?

Philos­o­phy event se­ries in­tro­duc­ing EA at the Univer­sity of Zurich

The Me­taethics and Nor­ma­tive Ethics of AGI Value Align­ment: Many Ques­tions, Some Implications

Re­sources on An­i­mal Ethics and Helping Animals

Announcing the Animal Welfare Library 🦉

Switzerland fails to ban factory farming – lessons for the pursuit of EA-inspired policies?

Philosophy event series introducing EA at the University of Zurich

The Metaethics and Normative Ethics of AGI Value Alignment: Many Questions, Some Implications

Resources on Animal Ethics and Helping Animals