Hey there! I’m Gergő, the founder of EA Hungary and Budapest AI Safety.
If you would like to connect with the Hungarian EA/AIS communities please feel free to message me! We host lots of events! :)
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Thanks for sharing this, will definitely try Gathertown the next time I’m running a fellowship! :)
Can you expand on how this opportunity compares to GiveWell’s top charities?
Thanks for writing this up!
As someone who is getting started in AIS movement building, this was great to read!
i) I conceptualised the AI Safety community differently from some of my readers
I would be curious, how does your take differ from others’ takes?
I have read Three pillars for avoiding AGI catastrophe: Technical alignment, deployment decisions, and coordination and I feel the two posts are trying to answer slightly different questions but would be keen to learn about some other way people have conceptualised the problem.
Hey Maya! I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience!
I’m sure it wasn’t easy to write it up and it took a lot of courage, and I’m really glad you did it!
Fair enough, thank you!
Thanks for posting this!
As a community builder in Hungary, this is something that will be more and more relevant for us. I think I am probably less worried about “EA brain drain” than the average community builder outside of big EA Hubs, but some of my thoughts are:
(Epistemic status: the lower the claim is in the list, the less confident I am in it, criticisms are welcome!)
-In the end, it’s really the given individual’s personal choice as to whether they stay with their local group or move to EA hubs. As a community builder, it doesn’t seem right to me to try to nudge people one way or the other. (Apart from giving my best advice on what I think will have the biggest impact, help thinking about trade-offs etc.)
-Plenty of people will stay with their local group for personal reasons.
-It would be nice if most EA orgs wouldn’t require moving for roles that are possible to do remotely. (Although there might be strong reasons to have people in one office, I didn’t think about this much before)
-We should definitely keep in touch with people who move away and have them as (online) speakers, and ask them to have 1-1s with new but promising members.
-If it’s the case that most of a group’s impact will come from the few most engaged individuals, it seems that we should do everything to support those engaged individuals have +x% more impact than worry about what would be best for our local groups.
-It might be valuable to have more local EA-orgs, in low and middle-income countries (maybe). Even if these won’t produce the biggest impact, they can be a stepping stone for people to skill up and join international orgs, and given that operations costs should be lower in those countries, it could be still cost-effective to run them. (Although I suspect this would work better for some cause areas than others, eg. I could see it working well in animal welfare, but less so in AI Safety).
Thank you for the feedback! Indeed I should have written more about our experience with tabling and giving away books—but I have already procrastinated so much on writing this report, I didn’t want to take even longer x)! I hope to write about this at a later time though!
Thank you! :)
Hey there! It might just be my browser, but the last 3 links direct me back to this forum post.
I found reading this incredibly helpful, thank you for writing it up!
Also, I just wanted to flag that given that some time has passed since the post’s publication, I found two hyperlinks that no longer work:
”5 speaker events” and “4 weeks doing a self-directed capstone project”
Thank you again!
Hey there! Just wanted to flag that the document linked in the post is currently not public!
I see, thanks!
thanks for pointing that out!
Really sorry to hear about your experience! Yes, first encounters/experiences can leave a lasting mark. I hope you had more pleasant exchanges later, and that it didn’t discourage you from contributing to the forum—generally, my impression is that people are friendly and open-minded, but this is of course not always the case.
Glad that the second time want better, haha! And sorry that the first one post wasn’t a good experience, I’m too always worried about posting stuff that has been discussed before, or worse—someone has already made a similar but higher quality post *dramaric music* Was thoughtful of you to try to search beforehand tho, so I don’t think you can be blamed!
Oh sorry, I thought that’s what the last sentence referred to in your comment! - well good luck then!:))
Thank you for posting this!
Following on FB now!
You could also ask people running EA national/city pages to share your page—that way it could reach some more EAs and EA sympathetic folks!