Please answer this question: if Torres had spent the last several years calling you a white supremacist, a eugenicist, a racist, and a plagiarist in articles in popular media and on twitter, and misquoted and misrepresented things you had said to make you look as bad as possible, would you still work with him?
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No I didn’t discuss it with them previously. I don’t trust them so I won’t interact with them.
Can you answer this question: If someone has co-authored a paper with someone who tweets every day saying “David Manheim endorses white supremacy” and writes articles in online outlets saying that, what would you think?
I would ask the same question to Cremer and Kemp. If someone tweets every day and writes articles in web outlets saying “Zoe Cremer and Luke Kemp endorse white supremacy, are racist, endorse eugenics” while misquoting and misrepresenting you, would you still be happy to work with them? It seems like they are happy to work with Torres because he flatters their ideology and so will overlook grotesque abuse, which they wouldn’t do if it were aimed at them.
Also, using the same argumentative techniques as Torres, it would be quite easy to make this case. Cremer and Kemp think Sam Bankman-Fried’s money should be decided democratically, which will foreseeably lead to the deaths of huge numbers of black people, in expectation.
What about when they don’t disclose that that might have influenced the reception of their paper?
Sorry have changed the name now—I previously changed the pronouns
sorry i’ve corrected
Emile Torres (formerly Phil) just admitted on their Twitter that they were a co-author of a penultimate version of this paper. It is extremely deceptive not to disclose their contribution this in the paper or in the Forum post. At the point this paper was written, Torres had been banned from the EA Forum and multiple people in the community had accused Torres of harassing them. Do you think that that might have contributed to the (alleged) reception to your paper?