I like the words inside beliefs and outside beliefs, almost-but-not-quite analogous to inside- and outside-view reasoning. The actual distinction we want to capture is “which beliefs should we report in light of social-epistemological considerations” and “which beliefs should we use to make decisions to change the world”.
Agreed that this topic warrants a wiki entry, so I proposed that yesterday just after making this post, and Pablo—our fast-moving wiki maestro—has already made such an entry!
I almost like inside beliefs and outside beliefs, but:
I feel like “outside beliefs” implies that it’s only using info about other people’s beliefs, or is in any case setting aside one’s independent impression.
Whereas I see independent impressions as a subset of what forms our all-things-considered beliefs.
I’d also worry that inside and outside beliefs sounds too close to inside and outside views, which could create confusion because independent impressions can be based on outside views, peer disagreement can be driven by other people’s inside views, etc.
One final point: I think your last sentence could be read as implying that inside views are what we should report, in light of social-epistemological considerations. (Though I’m not sure if you actually meant that.) I think whether it’s best to report an independent impression, an all-things-considered belief, or both will vary depending on the context. I’d mostly advocate for being willing to report either (rather than shying away from ever stating independent impressions) and being clear about which one is being reported.
On the social-epistemological point: Yes, it varies by context.
One thing I’d add is that I think it’s hard to keep inside/outside (or independent and all-things-considered) beliefs separate for a long time. And your independent beliefs are almost certainly going to be influenced by peer evidence, and vice versa.
I think this means that if you are the kind of person whose main value to the community is sharing your opinions (rather than, say, being a fund manager), you should try to cultivate a habit of mostly attending to gears-level evidence and to some extent ignore testimonial evidence. This will make your own beliefs less personallyusefwl for making decisions, but will make the opinions you share more valuable to the community.
I like the words inside beliefs and outside beliefs, almost-but-not-quite analogous to inside- and outside-view reasoning. The actual distinction we want to capture is “which beliefs should we report in light of social-epistemological considerations” and “which beliefs should we use to make decisions to change the world”.
Agreed that this topic warrants a wiki entry, so I proposed that yesterday just after making this post, and Pablo—our fast-moving wiki maestro—has already made such an entry!
I almost like inside beliefs and outside beliefs, but:
I feel like “outside beliefs” implies that it’s only using info about other people’s beliefs, or is in any case setting aside one’s independent impression.
Whereas I see independent impressions as a subset of what forms our all-things-considered beliefs.
I’d also worry that inside and outside beliefs sounds too close to inside and outside views, which could create confusion because independent impressions can be based on outside views, peer disagreement can be driven by other people’s inside views, etc.
One final point: I think your last sentence could be read as implying that inside views are what we should report, in light of social-epistemological considerations. (Though I’m not sure if you actually meant that.) I think whether it’s best to report an independent impression, an all-things-considered belief, or both will vary depending on the context. I’d mostly advocate for being willing to report either (rather than shying away from ever stating independent impressions) and being clear about which one is being reported.
On the social-epistemological point: Yes, it varies by context.
One thing I’d add is that I think it’s hard to keep inside/outside (or independent and all-things-considered) beliefs separate for a long time. And your independent beliefs are almost certainly going to be influenced by peer evidence, and vice versa.
I think this means that if you are the kind of person whose main value to the community is sharing your opinions (rather than, say, being a fund manager), you should try to cultivate a habit of mostly attending to gears-level evidence and to some extent ignore testimonial evidence. This will make your own beliefs less personally usefwl for making decisions, but will make the opinions you share more valuable to the community.