I feel kind of proud of seeing my name on this huge numbered list and being among the first ten thousand people to sign.
That resonates with me.
And the mention of Wikipedia is interesting. When I was a pretty active Wikipedia editor, I indeed felt proud of and motivated by badge-type things (mainly âbarnstarsâ, if I recall correctly), as well as by random people thanking me for contributions (either by clicking a button or by posting on my talk page).
Iâd guess a lot of EAs have similar mindsets, motivational patterns, etc. to a lot of Wikipedia editors, so it does seem like it could be interesting to try to learn from how Wikipedia ârecruitsâ, motivates, and retains editors.
Could you expand on what you mean by âMaybe we could have âPledgeâ badgesâ? E.g., where are you envisioning those badges being displayed? Are you envisioning them just being for taking the pledge, or also for other actions (e.g., recording donations, hitting some milestone in donations, being in the first 10,000 members, a badge another pledger can give you to say you helped them decide where to give...)?
(Your other ideas also seem potentially interesting, but I donât have anything in particular to say about them :) )
Could you expand on what you mean by âMaybe we could have âPledgeâ badgesâ? E.g., where are you envisioning those badges being displayed?
I thought about peopleâs forum accounts. There are also the EA hub accounts, but I basically never open it, not sure about others. Iâd probably do it similar to Wikipedia (e.g. here), just having a small icon for the pledge and when you hover on it âGivingWhatWeCan member since April 2nd, 2020â. I didnât think about other ideas, e.g. being helpful for a person deciding on a donation! I like the idea. One worry that comes up is that it could get a bit cluttered. Also, something in me feels a bit awkward when proudly displaying something, like I could become the target of the bullies of my highschool for feeling âtoo coolâ. The GWWC pledge is already so socially accepted as something cool that I donât feel this in that case.
Yeah, I think this ideaâand other things in the same neighbourhoodâis worth considering.
One thing worth mentioning is that GWWC already have badges you can display on websites, as well as Facebook photo frames. (This is where I found them.) So I think the intervention here wouldnât be creating them, but rather:
getting the EA Forumâand maybe other sitesâto have a clearly visible option for putting a badge there if one is a GWWC member
normalising using them
E.g., by directly talking to a few people about using them, and making a public statement to let people know about the idea
maybe creating variants
I think it could be worth talking to people like Luke Freeman (whoâs head of GWWC) and/âor Aaron Gertler (the lead Forum moderator) about this.
That resonates with me.
And the mention of Wikipedia is interesting. When I was a pretty active Wikipedia editor, I indeed felt proud of and motivated by badge-type things (mainly âbarnstarsâ, if I recall correctly), as well as by random people thanking me for contributions (either by clicking a button or by posting on my talk page).
Iâd guess a lot of EAs have similar mindsets, motivational patterns, etc. to a lot of Wikipedia editors, so it does seem like it could be interesting to try to learn from how Wikipedia ârecruitsâ, motivates, and retains editors.
Could you expand on what you mean by âMaybe we could have âPledgeâ badgesâ? E.g., where are you envisioning those badges being displayed? Are you envisioning them just being for taking the pledge, or also for other actions (e.g., recording donations, hitting some milestone in donations, being in the first 10,000 members, a badge another pledger can give you to say you helped them decide where to give...)?
(Your other ideas also seem potentially interesting, but I donât have anything in particular to say about them :) )
I thought about peopleâs forum accounts. There are also the EA hub accounts, but I basically never open it, not sure about others. Iâd probably do it similar to Wikipedia (e.g. here), just having a small icon for the pledge and when you hover on it âGivingWhatWeCan member since April 2nd, 2020â. I didnât think about other ideas, e.g. being helpful for a person deciding on a donation! I like the idea. One worry that comes up is that it could get a bit cluttered. Also, something in me feels a bit awkward when proudly displaying something, like I could become the target of the bullies of my highschool for feeling âtoo coolâ. The GWWC pledge is already so socially accepted as something cool that I donât feel this in that case.
Yeah, I think this ideaâand other things in the same neighbourhoodâis worth considering.
One thing worth mentioning is that GWWC already have badges you can display on websites, as well as Facebook photo frames. (This is where I found them.) So I think the intervention here wouldnât be creating them, but rather:
getting the EA Forumâand maybe other sitesâto have a clearly visible option for putting a badge there if one is a GWWC member
normalising using them
E.g., by directly talking to a few people about using them, and making a public statement to let people know about the idea
maybe creating variants
I think it could be worth talking to people like Luke Freeman (whoâs head of GWWC) and/âor Aaron Gertler (the lead Forum moderator) about this.