My pet peeve about this argument is that the Shakers lasted from 1770 to the present (although now with just two elderly members). That’s nothing to sneeze at for a utopian movement—compare them to the longevity of many 1960s communes that produced plenty of babies.
I think there’s a lot to admire about the Shakers… I’m just pointing out that as a social movement they are dying out, probably in part due to their views about sex & child-rearing.
Catholicism, Islam, and Mormonism seem to be much more durable in the long run (at least so far).
My pet peeve about this argument is that the Shakers lasted from 1770 to the present (although now with just two elderly members). That’s nothing to sneeze at for a utopian movement—compare them to the longevity of many 1960s communes that produced plenty of babies.
I think there’s a lot to admire about the Shakers… I’m just pointing out that as a social movement they are dying out, probably in part due to their views about sex & child-rearing.
Catholicism, Islam, and Mormonism seem to be much more durable in the long run (at least so far).