Iâm one of the contact people for the effective altruism community. I work at CEA as the head of the Community Health team, trying to support the EA community in addressing problems and being a healthy and welcoming community.
Please feel free to contact me at julia.wise@centreforeffectivealtruism.org.
Besides effective altruism, Iâm interested in folk dance and trying to keep up with my three children.
>I made a 13x13âł hole in my wall
I was away for the day and when I got home, he said âI made a hole in our wall but it can be refilled.â
In the example about careers, it could across that âdo the normal thingâ is a front for the more extreme thing. I think itâs worth spelling out: different people do have actually different beliefs about what you should do here.
In the example about food, itâs common that people assume Iâm vegan because I serve vegan food for EA dinners. Iâm not, and I donât want to create the impression that a specific diet is a required part of EA. (I should follow my own advice and flag this a little more clearly at my own dinners!)
Stuff I tell student organizers: Do more meta communication.
Represent the range of views that are in your group. If some people in your student group think âdo the normal thing in university and explore your career optionsâ and others think âdrop out to urgently work on 2-person AI safety projects,â represent to your group members that those are both views held in your group.
If you always serve vegan food, people will assume all EAs are vegan /â youâre supposed to be vegan if youâre in EA. I suggest saying something like âWe serve vegan food because thatâs what works best for the combination of people in our group, but itâs not that everybody is vegan.â About half the people in the EA survey are vegetarian or vegan.
I think the heads up was optional; thanks for doing it at all. But it felt weird that you included it in your comment, because a heads up to me doesnât really make a difference on the overall situation.
>FWIW I did send the CEA community health team a draft of this announcement.
Since you mention my team and you emailed me an FYI about 16 hours before this announcement went up, hereâs my opinion: donât hire someone with a fraud conviction for a finance or philanthropy role.
I thought the quiz was well made!
I came here and had the same thought!
I like how this model captures several different factors! Taste/âenjoyment is another factor that I think is key for a lot of people here.
As described, this doesnât seem to contain
- time with friends
- seeing family, especially if they donât live in the same city
- recuperation time if you get sick
I suggest having some tripwires built in, like âIf my closest friend says âyou are not ok, you should pause,â I will take X steps.â
The commitment as stated is âactually donated âŹ1 millionâ, unclear if donating part of a company counts.
>Palisade, Apollo, METR, MATS, Tarbell
For other readers who thought, âWait, are those not getting CG funding?â Almost all of those orgs have been funded by CG, most within the last year. Maybe not at the level Scottâs talking about though.
Other comments make me think the language wasnât a big factor, but trying to model what my college-aged self would have asked before hearing about EA: âwhat career will help other people the mostâ /â âwhat career will make the world a better placeâ
I wonder if some of this is that most people donât ask questions with âmorally speakingâ in the phrasing.
Thanks for spelling this out! Re the call script: my understanding is that messages like these get recorded by staffers basically as âin favor /â opposedâ to whatever the legislation is. Is it worth having a shorter script, since the arguments are not making it into the record of who called about what?
I really admire the work happening here!