Fair enough â I think I was trying to say something along the lines of âgoing through any specific example invites a lot of genuinely thorny and difficult questions about counterfactuality/âsign of impact/âattribution to EAâ (and again many of these are hard to discuss on a public forum) but I think zooming out, you can see EAs fingerprints in various important places. I think this leads to an overall common-sense perspective that EA has helped improve the situation.
Also, I agree I pointed to work in the middle of the ToC chain, but that seems kind of reasonable to me given that AI is currently not that powerful and not really that scary. AI hasnât yet been capable of causing a disaster, so itâs not really possible to have prevented one (yet).
On the specific example of Redwood Research is doing a lot of really valuable safety work. I think pioneering Control has been a fairly useful accomplishment, and I suspect if someone wanted to dig into the details, theyâd find that it was fairly counterfactual.
Fair enough â I think I was trying to say something along the lines of âgoing through any specific example invites a lot of genuinely thorny and difficult questions about counterfactuality/âsign of impact/âattribution to EAâ (and again many of these are hard to discuss on a public forum) but I think zooming out, you can see EAs fingerprints in various important places. I think this leads to an overall common-sense perspective that EA has helped improve the situation.
Also, I agree I pointed to work in the middle of the ToC chain, but that seems kind of reasonable to me given that AI is currently not that powerful and not really that scary. AI hasnât yet been capable of causing a disaster, so itâs not really possible to have prevented one (yet).
On the specific example of Redwood Research is doing a lot of really valuable safety work. I think pioneering Control has been a fairly useful accomplishment, and I suspect if someone wanted to dig into the details, theyâd find that it was fairly counterfactual.