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Can we get the Polis report* too?
*I can’t help but wonder if this potential pun is the reason they chose this name
Who is the most underrated critic of EA who EAs should engage with more? (one name per answer)
Larry Temkin is a decent candidate. I think he has plenty of misunderstandings about EA broadly, but he also defends many views that are contrary to common EA approaches and wrote a whole book about his perspective on philanthropy. As far as philosopher critics go, he is a decent mixture of a) representing a variety of perspectives unpopular among EAs and 2) doing so in a rigorous and analytic way EAs are reasonably likely to appreciate, in particular he has been socially close to many EA philosophers, especially Derek Parfit.
Anand Giridharadas
Really weird to group together Gebru and Torres.
I don’t think so. They often retweet and cite each other.
When I wrote yesterday’s comment (about the core community not being a good fit for everyone), I think I had a few things in mind, one of which is captured well in the GWWC-related comment about different levels of involvement. The other two, which are more difficult to make concrete, were:
The EA community has a certain distinct culture which isn’t a good fit for everyone (for any number of reasons). Although I’m new and not an EA historian at all, I suggest that many of those cultural features are likely a reflection of the specific people and circles who (re?)discovered the EA principles, rather than necessary outgrowths of the core principles themselves. The culture is a means to an end, and there should be places for people to practice the core EA principles without partaking much in the EA culture.
It seems there should be more communities devoted to specializing in what one might consider facets or subsets of the “full” or “well-rounded” EA experience. There’s a lot to keep up-to-date with in EA, and that might feel overwhelming (especially for those of us with non-EA jobs). Or someone might not want to identify with EA as a whole for any number of reasons; it is inevitably going to be a controversial social movement. So for instance, people could be encouraged to join (e.g.) a “Maximizing Global Health” community, and make that part of their social identity, if that was a better fit for them for whatever reason.
I agree with you in theory, but in practice I’m worried that the first bullet point will serve as an excuse to make EA culture even less inclusive.
One day doesn’t seem like very long to get topics? I guess you got a decent amount of engagement, though.
What concrete steps could the EA community take to signal that it’s not a good fit for everyone and that there are different levels of useful commitment?
Can people who missed the post yesterday add more suggestions?
Yes though maybe add them to both. I may remove them though because last polis poll just had way too many suggestions so I’m trying to get those that are concensus.
Fair theoretically, but I think some core issues are missing from this poll as it is now, which I tried to fix (and got some upvotes on at least some), and I wonder how many votes they got before being removed.
What does a good whistleblowing process look like? Aim to write it succinctly
Suggestion: I think building epistemic health infrastructure is currently the most effective way to improve EA epistemic health, and is the biggest gap in EA epistemics.
I elaborated on this in my shortform. If the suggestion above seems too vague, there’re also examples in the shortform. (I plan to coordinate a discussion/brainstorming on this topic among people with relevant interests; please do PM me if you’re interested)
(I was late to the party, but since Nathan encourages late comments, I’m posting my suggestion anyways. I’m posting the comment also under this post besides the previous one, because Nathan said that “maybe add them to both”; please correct me if that’s my misunderstanding)