The deprioritization of nonlongtermist issues, orgs and paths. To me this is unwarranted and didn’t necessarily reflect the views of the EA community. I suspect this lead to some division and feeling pushed around/devalued by people interested in global health, suffering, animals, etc. This may have driven the movement to be more longtermist dominated as the other people engage less.
I agree with the increased focus on long-termism, but I would also like to 80,000 Hours minimise any feelings of division/devaluing as long as they can do so whilst remaining true to what they believe.
Thanks David—it seems like an important harm to consider if we’ve caused people who’d otherwise be doing valuable work in global health / animal welfare / other issues to leave the EA community // not do as valuable work.
This way of breaking things down is very confusing to me. It seems weird to have some of the listed areas be role types and some be cause areas. E.g. the grantmaker and EA org employee sections also include GiveWell
I was also going to say that it’s pretty confusing that this list is not the same as either the top problem areas listed elsewhere on the site or the top-priority career paths, although it seems derived from the latter. Maybe there are some version control issues here?
The deprioritization of nonlongtermist issues, orgs and paths. To me this is unwarranted and didn’t necessarily reflect the views of the EA community. I suspect this lead to some division and feeling pushed around/devalued by people interested in global health, suffering, animals, etc. This may have driven the movement to be more longtermist dominated as the other people engage less.
I agree with the increased focus on long-termism, but I would also like to 80,000 Hours minimise any feelings of division/devaluing as long as they can do so whilst remaining true to what they believe.
Thanks David—it seems like an important harm to consider if we’ve caused people who’d otherwise be doing valuable work in global health / animal welfare / other issues to leave the EA community // not do as valuable work.
I didn’t know the job board did this! That is pretty terrible.
Well the job board still lists the “neartermist” jobs but the top orgs and pressing problems does impose these two separate tiers.
https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/
Animal welfare is not even in the first or second tier.
Like, literally nanotech is beating it out, as well as “malevolent actors”, and “improving governance of public goods”.
*Opens “top recommended organizations”*
*Pauses*
*Breathes deeply*
A bit to unpack, but yeah, forecasting is beating out global health and wellbeing, for top priority.
The smells are large, e.g. shipping the org chart, etc.
This way of breaking things down is very confusing to me. It seems weird to have some of the listed areas be role types and some be cause areas. E.g. the grantmaker and EA org employee sections also include GiveWell
Thanks Rebecca, I see how that’s a confusing way to organise things—will pass on this feedback.
I was also going to say that it’s pretty confusing that this list is not the same as either the top problem areas listed elsewhere on the site or the top-priority career paths, although it seems derived from the latter. Maybe there are some version control issues here?