Could you clarify what makes this a “GiveWell CEA spreadsheet”? When I saw the title I thought that GiveWell had started publishing work on chickens, but it doesn’t sound like they were involved in this project?
FWIW, I also felt uncomfortable with the title of “Why Hasn’t Effective Altruism Grown Since 2015?” (since I think EA has clearly grown since 2015 on several metrics, even if maybe not on all metrics, so simply saying it hasn’t grown is either false or oversimplified). So I’d personally be in favour of you (Applied Divinity Studies) generally trying to think a bit more about ways in which a title could be misleading or unclear before you make a post.
(But I don’t mean this as like a very strong criticism or personal attack, and maybe it’s weird/inadvisable for me to talk about “general patterns” in an author’s work in a public comment rather than in a private message to them—apologies if so. I mean this as a fairly small thing.)
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate the note and will think more about this in the future. FWIW I typically spend a lot of time on the post, very little time on the title, even though the title is probably read by way more people. So it makes sense to re-calibrate that balance a bit.
That all sounds good! And thanks for the very good-natured and receptive response to what I was worried might feel like or spark an uncomfortable online interaction!
And I hadn’t seen that followup post—apologies for not being aware you’d already noted this in that case :)
Could you clarify what makes this a “GiveWell CEA spreadsheet”? When I saw the title I thought that GiveWell had started publishing work on chickens, but it doesn’t sound like they were involved in this project?
Yeah, I was also confused. Maybe say “A GiveWell-style CEA spreadsheet”? That feels like it captures what it is better.
(Yeah, I had both these thoughts in almost exactly those words as soon as I read the title, and strongly agree.)
FWIW, I also felt uncomfortable with the title of “Why Hasn’t Effective Altruism Grown Since 2015?” (since I think EA has clearly grown since 2015 on several metrics, even if maybe not on all metrics, so simply saying it hasn’t grown is either false or oversimplified). So I’d personally be in favour of you (Applied Divinity Studies) generally trying to think a bit more about ways in which a title could be misleading or unclear before you make a post.
(But I don’t mean this as like a very strong criticism or personal attack, and maybe it’s weird/inadvisable for me to talk about “general patterns” in an author’s work in a public comment rather than in a private message to them—apologies if so. I mean this as a fairly small thing.)
Sorry about all that, changed the title to “Give Well-style”.
Agreed on the other title as well. I made some notes on this in the follow up post and noted that I could have picked a better title. https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xedQto46TFrSruEoN/responses-and-testimonies-on-ea-growth
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate the note and will think more about this in the future. FWIW I typically spend a lot of time on the post, very little time on the title, even though the title is probably read by way more people. So it makes sense to re-calibrate that balance a bit.
That all sounds good! And thanks for the very good-natured and receptive response to what I was worried might feel like or spark an uncomfortable online interaction!
And I hadn’t seen that followup post—apologies for not being aware you’d already noted this in that case :)
I initially thought that CEA here stood for Centre for Effective Altruism, and only later did I realize that it stood for cost-effectiveness analysis.