I would suggest the role of the US toppling Democratically elected people like Patrice Lumumba in Congo and in Iran and Guatemala may have caused at least as much suffering as the Uyghur atrocities.
Its hard to imagine anything worse than the “giant leap forward” though.
Agreed on impacts—but I think intention matters when considering what the past implies about the future, and as I said in another reply, on that basis I will claim the great leap forward isn’t a reasonable basis to predict future abuse or tragedy.
I disagree. I think that if a government causes great harm by accident or great harm intentionally, either is evidence that it will cause great harm by accident or intentionally in future respectively and I just care about the great harm part
I certainly agree it’s some marginal evidence of propensity, and that the outcome, not the intent, is what matters—but don’t you think that mistakes become less frequent with greater understanding and capacity?
I would suggest the role of the US toppling Democratically elected people like Patrice Lumumba in Congo and in Iran and Guatemala may have caused at least as much suffering as the Uyghur atrocities.
Its hard to imagine anything worse than the “giant leap forward” though.
Agreed on impacts—but I think intention matters when considering what the past implies about the future, and as I said in another reply, on that basis I will claim the great leap forward isn’t a reasonable basis to predict future abuse or tragedy.
I disagree. I think that if a government causes great harm by accident or great harm intentionally, either is evidence that it will cause great harm by accident or intentionally in future respectively and I just care about the great harm part
I certainly agree it’s some marginal evidence of propensity, and that the outcome, not the intent, is what matters—but don’t you think that mistakes become less frequent with greater understanding and capacity?