Some things that aren’t said in this post or any comments in here yet:
The issue isn’t at all about 15-20 year old content, it’s about very recent content and events (mostly publicly visible)
In addition to this recent, publicly visible content, there are several latent issues or effects that directly affect progress in the relevant cause area
To calibrate, this could be slowing things down by 10 times or more, in what is supposed to be the most important cause area in EA and whose effects are supposed to happen very soon
Certain comments here do not at all contain all of the relevant content, because laying them out risks damaging an entire cause area.
Certain commentors may feel personally restricted from doing for a variety of complex reasons (“moral mazes”) and the content they are presenting is a “second best” option
The above interacts poorly with the customs and practices around discourse and criticism
These in totality have become sort of an odious and out of space specter, invisible to people who a lot of spend time here
For all I know, you maybe right or not (insofar as I follow what’s being insinuated), but whilst I freely admit that l, like anyone who wants to work in EA, have self-interested incentives to not be too critical of Eliezer, there is no specific secret “latent issue” that I personally am aware of and consciously avoiding talking about. Honest.
Some things that aren’t said in this post or any comments in here yet:
The issue isn’t at all about 15-20 year old content, it’s about very recent content and events (mostly publicly visible)
In addition to this recent, publicly visible content, there are several latent issues or effects that directly affect progress in the relevant cause area
To calibrate, this could be slowing things down by 10 times or more, in what is supposed to be the most important cause area in EA and whose effects are supposed to happen very soon
Certain comments here do not at all contain all of the relevant content, because laying them out risks damaging an entire cause area.
Certain commentors may feel personally restricted from doing for a variety of complex reasons (“moral mazes”) and the content they are presenting is a “second best” option
The above interacts poorly with the customs and practices around discourse and criticism
These in totality have become sort of an odious and out of space specter, invisible to people who a lot of spend time here
For all I know, you maybe right or not (insofar as I follow what’s being insinuated), but whilst I freely admit that l, like anyone who wants to work in EA, have self-interested incentives to not be too critical of Eliezer, there is no specific secret “latent issue” that I personally am aware of and consciously avoiding talking about. Honest.
I am grateful for your considerate comment and your reply. I had no belief or thought about dishonesty.
Maybe I should have added[1]:
“this is for onlookers”
“this is trying to rationalize/explain why this post exists, that has 234 karma and 156 votes, yet only talks about high school stuff.”
I posted my comment because this situation is hurting onlookers and producing bycatch?
I don’t really know what to do here (as a communications thing) and I have incentives not to be involved?
But this is sort of getting into the elliptical rhetoric and self-referential stuff, that is sort of related to the problem in the first place.