I generally prefer audiobooks, but on 80k Toby mentioned that about half of the book is interesting footnotes and appendices. Will the audiobook version have all of that? And how would it work (e.g., are all the footnotes just read at the end, or read alongside the relevant part of the main text)?
The audiobook will not include the endnotes. We really couldn’t see any good way of doing this, unfortunately.
Toby is right that there’s a huge amount of great stuff in there, particularly for those already more familiar with existential risk, so I would highly recommend getting your hands on a physical or ebook version (IMO ebook is the best format for endnotes, since they’ll be hyperlinked).
For those looking for the ebook, it’s only available on the Canadian, German, and Australian (cheapest) amazon pages (but not US / UK ones). (EDIT: Actually available on the UK store.)
I’d be fairly surprised if the answer wasn’t “we dropped the footnotes” since this is almost always the answer. If that is not the answer I’d also be curious about how it was managed.
That would be a shame. If you’re fairly familiar with Xrisk literature and FHI’s work in particular, then a lot of the juiciest facts and details are in the footnotes—I found them fascinating.
I think I overheard Toby saying that the footnotes and appendices were dropped in the audiobook and that, yes, the footnotes and appendices (which make up 50% of the book) should be the most interesting part for people already familiar with the X-risk literature.
Excited to get stuck into this!
I generally prefer audiobooks, but on 80k Toby mentioned that about half of the book is interesting footnotes and appendices. Will the audiobook version have all of that? And how would it work (e.g., are all the footnotes just read at the end, or read alongside the relevant part of the main text)?
The audiobook will not include the endnotes. We really couldn’t see any good way of doing this, unfortunately.
Toby is right that there’s a huge amount of great stuff in there, particularly for those already more familiar with existential risk, so I would highly recommend getting your hands on a physical or ebook version (IMO ebook is the best format for endnotes, since they’ll be hyperlinked).
For those looking for the ebook, it’s only available on the Canadian, German, and Australian (cheapest) amazon pages (but not US / UK ones). (EDIT: Actually available on the UK store.)
I got it on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Toby_Ord_The_Precipice?id=W7rEDwAAQBAJ
Infinite Jest has them at the end of the audiobook in chaptered (clickable) segments, iirc
Thanks. Yes, I’ll get the ebook then.
I’d be fairly surprised if the answer wasn’t “we dropped the footnotes” since this is almost always the answer. If that is not the answer I’d also be curious about how it was managed.
That would be a shame. If you’re fairly familiar with Xrisk literature and FHI’s work in particular, then a lot of the juiciest facts and details are in the footnotes—I found them fascinating.
Infinite Jest has them at the end of the audiobook in chaptered (clickable) segments, iirc
I think I overheard Toby saying that the footnotes and appendices were dropped in the audiobook and that, yes, the footnotes and appendices (which make up 50% of the book) should be the most interesting part for people already familiar with the X-risk literature.