What is the substantial role EA played in the founding of Deepmind? I find this claim surprising since Deepmind was founded in 2010.
Or is Deepmind not a top three capability company according to you?
Shane Legg started DeepMind together with Demis after he heard about about Superintelligence concerns by Eliezer and Kurzweil, and was active for many months on LessWrong reading Eliezer’s arguments and commenting on the site.
...which predates EA? EAs don’t generally take credit/responsibility for intellectual influences pre-2011, even if those intellectuals then become active in the EA community. If we’re not taking credit for Peter Singer’s work pre-2011, I don’t think we should take responsibility for Eliezer or Kurzweil’s work pre-2011.
Sure, you can slice things here however you want. I do think it’s important to be at least consistent with both positives and negatives here. I’ve definitely seen people claim credit for GiveWell as part of EA, which of course was also founded pre-2011. I don’t think think there is a clear answer on how to handle this, and it seems most important to just be consistent.
IMO it does also feel really weird to say the sentence “we’ve had a substantial influence on 2 out of the 3 top AI capability companies”, when like, the same people also had a substantial influence on the third.
What is the substantial role EA played in the founding of Deepmind? I find this claim surprising since Deepmind was founded in 2010. Or is Deepmind not a top three capability company according to you?
Shane Legg started DeepMind together with Demis after he heard about about Superintelligence concerns by Eliezer and Kurzweil, and was active for many months on LessWrong reading Eliezer’s arguments and commenting on the site.
See this tweet thread: https://twitter.com/ShaneLegg/status/1598047654159978496
And this old LessWrong account from Shane: https://www.lesswrong.com/users/shane_legg
...which predates EA? EAs don’t generally take credit/responsibility for intellectual influences pre-2011, even if those intellectuals then become active in the EA community. If we’re not taking credit for Peter Singer’s work pre-2011, I don’t think we should take responsibility for Eliezer or Kurzweil’s work pre-2011.
Sure, you can slice things here however you want. I do think it’s important to be at least consistent with both positives and negatives here. I’ve definitely seen people claim credit for GiveWell as part of EA, which of course was also founded pre-2011. I don’t think think there is a clear answer on how to handle this, and it seems most important to just be consistent.
IMO it does also feel really weird to say the sentence “we’ve had a substantial influence on 2 out of the 3 top AI capability companies”, when like, the same people also had a substantial influence on the third.