I don’t assume that they are convinced, I think that they are aware of the issues. They are also a tiny group compared to the general population—so I think you need a far stronger reason to focus on such a small group instead of the public than what has been suggested.
And I think you’re misconstruing my position about EA versus AI safety—I strongly agree that they should be separate, as I’ve said elsewhere.
Yeah I get your point and factually sure it is a small group. I still think that for cohesive community purposes advocating for AI within EA would be useful, and finding qualified members to work in AI is easier to do within the community than within the public given the profile of EAS.
As to be aware of the issues that is where we disagree. I don’t think AI has been brought in a careful, thoughtful way, with good epistemics in the community. AI became a thing for specialists and an evidence very quickly, to the detriment of other EAs who have a hard time adjusting. Ignoring this will not lead to good things and should not be undervalued.
I don’t assume that they are convinced, I think that they are aware of the issues. They are also a tiny group compared to the general population—so I think you need a far stronger reason to focus on such a small group instead of the public than what has been suggested.
And I think you’re misconstruing my position about EA versus AI safety—I strongly agree that they should be separate, as I’ve said elsewhere.
Yeah I get your point and factually sure it is a small group. I still think that for cohesive community purposes advocating for AI within EA would be useful, and finding qualified members to work in AI is easier to do within the community than within the public given the profile of EAS.
As to be aware of the issues that is where we disagree. I don’t think AI has been brought in a careful, thoughtful way, with good epistemics in the community. AI became a thing for specialists and an evidence very quickly, to the detriment of other EAs who have a hard time adjusting. Ignoring this will not lead to good things and should not be undervalued.