I hope so! But I think that as a potential livelihood program, this would come out of the All Grants Fund, not the Top Charities Fund, so the bar may be lower. And I worry that donating to the Top Charities Fund in this scenario would reduce the amount of flexible All Grants money GiveWell needs for top-charity gaps, thereby indirectly funding donations of animals.
The bar for all grants fund is pretty high in terms of rigorous evidence for non hits-based approaches. If you’re thinking something along the lines of—givedirectlt funding a family who then buys a few chickens to state a business, then that could happen, but I don’t know of rigorous evidence supporting animal based support as a cost-effective intervention.
There is actually very rigorous evidence for the effectiveness of “animal-based support” in the form of “graduation programs”, though I’m not sure whether these are likely to hit the new GiveWell livelihoods bar. These programs typically involve a gift of some livestock.
Thanks @katriel yes that’s true nice one. I’ve seen a lot of programs from Village enterprise and others along those lines here in Uganda. In most cases I would have thought cash transfers or agricultural inputs could substitute for animals in this case without much fuss (there’s research supporting all of these I think). You’re right most probably involve livestock, but many don’t.
Also controversially here, in these situations I often think animals kept in village homes in these kind of programs have net positive lives. Many here will disagree.
I think there is a chance they would hit GiveWell’s bar.
You’re probably right, but especially when it comes to estate planning (I can’t adjust based on the latest facts once I’m gone), I would really prefer 100% certainty.
Just give to AMF, New Incentives, GiveDirectly, etc., in your estate instead, if you are worried about this? Most likely the money will be funded by GiveWell regardless.
I hope so! But I think that as a potential livelihood program, this would come out of the All Grants Fund, not the Top Charities Fund, so the bar may be lower. And I worry that donating to the Top Charities Fund in this scenario would reduce the amount of flexible All Grants money GiveWell needs for top-charity gaps, thereby indirectly funding donations of animals.
The bar for all grants fund is pretty high in terms of rigorous evidence for non hits-based approaches. If you’re thinking something along the lines of—givedirectlt funding a family who then buys a few chickens to state a business, then that could happen, but I don’t know of rigorous evidence supporting animal based support as a cost-effective intervention.
There is actually very rigorous evidence for the effectiveness of “animal-based support” in the form of “graduation programs”, though I’m not sure whether these are likely to hit the new GiveWell livelihoods bar. These programs typically involve a gift of some livestock.
Thanks @katriel yes that’s true nice one. I’ve seen a lot of programs from Village enterprise and others along those lines here in Uganda. In most cases I would have thought cash transfers or agricultural inputs could substitute for animals in this case without much fuss (there’s research supporting all of these I think). You’re right most probably involve livestock, but many don’t.
Also controversially here, in these situations I often think animals kept in village homes in these kind of programs have net positive lives. Many here will disagree.
I think there is a chance they would hit GiveWell’s bar.
Yea, let’s hope so. I’m primarily worried about direct donations of animals.
Yeah I’m 90 percent plus she that would never happen
You’re probably right, but especially when it comes to estate planning (I can’t adjust based on the latest facts once I’m gone), I would really prefer 100% certainty.
Just give to AMF, New Incentives, GiveDirectly, etc., in your estate instead, if you are worried about this? Most likely the money will be funded by GiveWell regardless.