If you compare this recent post I did, it has about the same karma on lesswrong and the forum, but on Lesswrong there are 36 comments, on here, 6. If I were gonna focus on writing forecasting articles, I’d write for LessWrong.
(I posted this response to a pre-edit version of Nathan’s post)
I’d sort of noticed your EA Forum drop-off (though perhaps this is my pattern-matching after the fact), if you had any more thoughts on the ‘vibe-shift’ as you perceive would be open to hearing them—either in reply or DM.
When I post my ‘EA-Forum Data in 2023’ post I’ll make a note to see if there’s a drop-off in commenting/Forum engagement. I do think Forum usage in late 2022/early 2023 was abnormally high (for obvious reasons)
Yeah I initially wrote that late at night in a mood. Ooops.
I think it might be worth testing what has happened to comments from high karma users/old accounts in the last year compared to previous years. I would predict a significantly higher drop off.
Why? I guess I think there is inter-party conflict in EA between those who wish for it to be a charming well behaved space and those who wish anything to be able to be discussed. And each group taxes the other a bit and finds friction. This is expensive to all parties so demand shifts down. I am a bit disagreeable but I don’t really want to spend my community time in slight conflict. So I use it less.
Perhaps also check what has happened to LessWrong usage and linked accounts on lesswrong.
I have said for a long time that the forum would benefit from some kind of mediation between parties in times of stress, before we all grow to dislike one another. I don’t think I’m the person to do that, so I don’t, but someone could.
Honestly, I just care about the community a bit less than I once did. I’ve had some bad experiences (and I am sure there are those who think I am the problem) so I feel less confident this place will be a place for me in 5 years time, so why would I invest here at the moment.
If you compare this recent post I did, it has about the same karma on lesswrong and the forum, but on Lesswrong there are 36 comments, on here, 6. If I were gonna focus on writing forecasting articles, I’d write for LessWrong.
(I posted this response to a pre-edit version of Nathan’s post)
I’d sort of noticed your EA Forum drop-off (though perhaps this is my pattern-matching after the fact), if you had any more thoughts on the ‘vibe-shift’ as you perceive would be open to hearing them—either in reply or DM.
When I post my ‘EA-Forum Data in 2023’ post I’ll make a note to see if there’s a drop-off in commenting/Forum engagement. I do think Forum usage in late 2022/early 2023 was abnormally high (for obvious reasons)
Yeah I initially wrote that late at night in a mood. Ooops.
I think it might be worth testing what has happened to comments from high karma users/old accounts in the last year compared to previous years. I would predict a significantly higher drop off.
Why? I guess I think there is inter-party conflict in EA between those who wish for it to be a charming well behaved space and those who wish anything to be able to be discussed. And each group taxes the other a bit and finds friction. This is expensive to all parties so demand shifts down. I am a bit disagreeable but I don’t really want to spend my community time in slight conflict. So I use it less.
Perhaps also check what has happened to LessWrong usage and linked accounts on lesswrong.
I have said for a long time that the forum would benefit from some kind of mediation between parties in times of stress, before we all grow to dislike one another. I don’t think I’m the person to do that, so I don’t, but someone could.
Honestly, I just care about the community a bit less than I once did. I’ve had some bad experiences (and I am sure there are those who think I am the problem) so I feel less confident this place will be a place for me in 5 years time, so why would I invest here at the moment.
I think also the quality of the comments has gone down. I have less expectation that I am gonna read interesting things.