Do you want to do a debate on youtube? I’m looking for polite, truth-seeking participants.
I am testing a new debate format and am looking for people to debate any of the following (or make a case for other things):
Policy decisions
EA Cause prioritisation
What should/will happen in Taiwan/Ukraine/Gaza
US elections
Economics
Animal consciousness
The debate would happen via a video call and then be put on my youtube (and I guess other places if you want).
Why am I asking for volunteers?
Most debates are bad, at least in part because the people who have them just want to win. Go on youtube and you can find 10s of debates with bad faith arguments and a descent into insults. These debates are usually about either US politics, trans issues or religion.
I think a debate will go much better if it starts with a pair of people who both have some moderate care for the truth and have reputation locked into being open and polite. The work of having good discussions is hard enough, without making it harder.
What is the format?
I am testing a new format, which I ran at Manifest (and which many seemed to enjoy[1]):
Poll the two people debating
Find things they agree and disagree on
Introduce the debaters and the things they agree on
Take a specific area they disagree on
Each debater gets [2 x 5] minutes where they are in control. They can speak or ask questions
As the moderator, I uphold their boundaries during this time—they can’t be interrupted.
Sometimes I will write key cruxes on a shared whiteboard
After the time is up for that topic, we move onto another specific disagreement
There is no mechanism to figure out who has “won”
Optiona additions I might try later.
@Katja Grace might sometimes help and try and disentangle cruxes. I am interested in having active moderation[2]
Give both candidates M10,000 on manifold and require that they bet it during the debate on markets relating to the debate which I will create
Some kind of live LLM based fact checking
Some kind of “throw to the audience” fact checking if I do a livestream
So do you have a view on these topics and want to discuss it?
The format aims to be relaxed and not require you to manage your own boundaries. If I do my job well, you don’t have to worry about someone being rude, taking more time than allotted or shifting the question around. I hope this might allow participants more space to focus on the discussion.
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Including @Eliezer Yudkowsky who asked if I could run one with him. He seems pretty hard to please.
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I don’t intuitively think I’d be very good at this. I think Katja would probably be very good.
I had another idea I had that might go with this:
Let debaters think for a moment (~20 seconds) before responding.
Then edit out the blank spaces in post-production (I think there are tools for this for audio at least).
I think this will get you more well-thought-out and coherent responses, and help bring in debaters that are logical and informed, but not quick on their feet.
I’m tentatively interested in participating in some of these debates. That’d depend on details of how the debates would work or be structured.
I really like the idea, it’s something I think I’d enjoy listening to.
If people are interested, should they DM you? Do you have a form?
Also, how much prep. time if any would you anticipate for a debater? And how informed/expert would you want a debater to be?