the view that EA employers are so fragile as to deny job opportunities based on EA Forum hot takes is hopefully greatly exaggerated and very disturbing if not.
In my personal experience most EA orgs have been extremely tolerant of even harsh criticism. I would guess that criticising CEA, MIRI, CSER, GWWC, LTFF, EVF, CE, OP, GCRI, APPGFG, GAP (and probably others I have forgotten) has been overall positive for me. I don’t know of any other movement where leaders are as willing to roll with the punches as they are here and I think they deserve a lot of credit for that.
On the other hand, ACE did attempt to cancel and defund Anima because of some hot takes on facebook, so maybe things are worse in the animal welfare side of things that I am less familiar with.
I agree with your first paragraph. I disagree about your read of the ACE <> Anima situation, but there’s no need to re-litigate that here. Regardless of your feelings about the Anima situation, I do think ACE has been criticized so many times in so many different ways by so many different people and they have been good about it.
That link says “Attempting to cancel an animal rights conference speaker because of his views on Black Lives Matter” which I think is different from objecting to criticism about ACE itself?
In my personal experience most EA orgs have been extremely tolerant of even harsh criticism. I would guess that criticising CEA, MIRI, CSER, GWWC, LTFF, EVF, CE, OP, GCRI, APPGFG, GAP (and probably others I have forgotten) has been overall positive for me. I don’t know of any other movement where leaders are as willing to roll with the punches as they are here and I think they deserve a lot of credit for that.
On the other hand, ACE did attempt to cancel and defund Anima because of some hot takes on facebook, so maybe things are worse in the animal welfare side of things that I am less familiar with.
I agree with your first paragraph. I disagree about your read of the ACE <> Anima situation, but there’s no need to re-litigate that here. Regardless of your feelings about the Anima situation, I do think ACE has been criticized so many times in so many different ways by so many different people and they have been good about it.
That link says “Attempting to cancel an animal rights conference speaker because of his views on Black Lives Matter” which I think is different from objecting to criticism about ACE itself?