Great point, I did not think of the specific claim of 5% when thinking of the scale but rather whether more effort should be spent in general.
My brain basically did a motte and baily on me emotionally when it comes to this question so I appreciate you pointing that out!
It also seems like you’re mostly critiquing the tractability of the claim and not the underlying scale nor neglectedness?
It kind of gives me some GPR vibes as for why it’s useful to do right now and that dependent on initial results either less or more resources should be spent?
It also seems like you’re mostly critiquing the tractability of the claim and not the underlying scale nor neglectedness?
Yep, everyone agrees it’s neglected. My strongest critique is the tractability, which may be so low as to discount astronomical value. I do take a lot of issue with the scale as well though. I think that needs to be argued for rather than assumed. I also think trade-offs from other causes need to be taken into account at some point too.
And again, I don’t think there’s no arguments that can make traction on the scale/tractability that can make AI Welfare look like a valuable cause, but these arguments clearly weren’t made (imho) in AWDW
Great point, I did not think of the specific claim of 5% when thinking of the scale but rather whether more effort should be spent in general.
My brain basically did a motte and baily on me emotionally when it comes to this question so I appreciate you pointing that out!
It also seems like you’re mostly critiquing the tractability of the claim and not the underlying scale nor neglectedness?
It kind of gives me some GPR vibes as for why it’s useful to do right now and that dependent on initial results either less or more resources should be spent?
Yep, everyone agrees it’s neglected. My strongest critique is the tractability, which may be so low as to discount astronomical value. I do take a lot of issue with the scale as well though. I think that needs to be argued for rather than assumed. I also think trade-offs from other causes need to be taken into account at some point too.
And again, I don’t think there’s no arguments that can make traction on the scale/tractability that can make AI Welfare look like a valuable cause, but these arguments clearly weren’t made (imho) in AWDW