Just to clarify, I don’t work on the forum, I only help out with moderation, so I’m only speculating here. If you want to contact the people that run the forum, you can use these channels (but keep in mind they’re currently probably a bit overloaded)
Maybe the person in your community had concerns even with the new text? Or maybe they were not logged in? I think having a detailed report/request for change could help the developers (e.g. including a screenshot of what you saw, and a mention of what you would have preferred to see).
As for:
Why was that page not fixed immediately? It seems clear to me that fixing that particular page was a very high priority?
As a software developer (not working on the forum), I have to admit I sighed a bit while reading this. These kinds of things are sadly often more tricky than they seem (as you just found out, the solution didn’t fix the issue in your case). You can see some of the things the developers were working on at the time here https://github.com/ForumMagnum/ForumMagnum/pulls?page=19&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed, and prioritization is very tricky.
It seems it was added to a feature queue when the issue could also have have been treated immediately by manually changing that particular link.
I’m not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that we could have changed this post not to include a link to the original post? We don’t edit user posts or comments unless we have a very good reason to (e.g. someone asks us to remove sensitive information)
Hi I’m really sorry. I wrote that late last night very tired and frustrated after thinking about this or gender EA stuff all day. I thought about deleting or retracting my comment a few minutes after I wrote it, but I just left it in what I hoped was decent form. But unfortunately it was so not decent form nor correct. So now I’ve retracted it.
It seems that when I revisited the link back in November, it was before the page was changed (probably before this post was made), so I didn’t see the update in November. And when I and others visited 2 weeks ago I guess we all just missed that second sentence “This is usually due to the user deleting the post” because it isn’t as obvious on mobile? I do struggle to see how we could have missed the sentence about it, so perhaps I’m the only one who missed it, and others saw it but still felt the language implied foul play.
As you suggest, I’ll message the people in my community about how it looked to them. And if that does yield good feedback or I think of some better language I’ll message mods.
And yeah, my latter sentences you quote where I speak about it not being treated immediately aren’t valid. It does look like the issue was treated immediately/next-day (TYSM you even went so far as to check out the codebase), so that’s pretty epic prioritization by the team and I’m grateful for that. So please just ignore those lines.
Sorry to waste your time and be discouraging as all heck (your sighs are valid). I gave you a strong upvote and strong agree which I hope counts for something even though your time is worth way more than that. I truly appreciate the thoughtful, detailed response.
I don’t think your comment was that bad, it was clearly not norm-violating or anything, and thank you for writing it even if you were very tired and frustrated (I now upvoted it, and I hope you’re now feeling better and taking time for self-care). It could result in useful feedback on how to improve the forum, which is valuable. I would personally much prefer people write imperfect feedback than nothing at all for fear of being discouraging or incorrect
Just to clarify, I don’t work on the forum, I only help out with moderation, so I’m only speculating here.
If you want to contact the people that run the forum, you can use these channels (but keep in mind they’re currently probably a bit overloaded)
The forum codebase seems to be public, you can see that the text was changed in November https://github.com/ForumMagnum/ForumMagnum/pull/6143 https://github.com/ForumMagnum/ForumMagnum/pull/6153/files#diff-5dc494c8af9a70df8c13a716cab8cd560735eb4e5638e21d2735f87a39f96ad8: approximately one day after I posted the feature request.
Maybe the person in your community had concerns even with the new text? Or maybe they were not logged in? I think having a detailed report/request for change could help the developers (e.g. including a screenshot of what you saw, and a mention of what you would have preferred to see).
As for:
As a software developer (not working on the forum), I have to admit I sighed a bit while reading this.
These kinds of things are sadly often more tricky than they seem (as you just found out, the solution didn’t fix the issue in your case). You can see some of the things the developers were working on at the time here https://github.com/ForumMagnum/ForumMagnum/pulls?page=19&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed, and prioritization is very tricky.
I’m not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that we could have changed this post not to include a link to the original post? We don’t edit user posts or comments unless we have a very good reason to (e.g. someone asks us to remove sensitive information)
Hi I’m really sorry. I wrote that late last night very tired and frustrated after thinking about this or gender EA stuff all day. I thought about deleting or retracting my comment a few minutes after I wrote it, but I just left it in what I hoped was decent form. But unfortunately it was so not decent form nor correct. So now I’ve retracted it.
It seems that when I revisited the link back in November, it was before the page was changed (probably before this post was made), so I didn’t see the update in November. And when I and others visited 2 weeks ago I guess we all just missed that second sentence “This is usually due to the user deleting the post” because it isn’t as obvious on mobile? I do struggle to see how we could have missed the sentence about it, so perhaps I’m the only one who missed it, and others saw it but still felt the language implied foul play.
As you suggest, I’ll message the people in my community about how it looked to them. And if that does yield good feedback or I think of some better language I’ll message mods.
And yeah, my latter sentences you quote where I speak about it not being treated immediately aren’t valid. It does look like the issue was treated immediately/next-day (TYSM you even went so far as to check out the codebase), so that’s pretty epic prioritization by the team and I’m grateful for that. So please just ignore those lines.
Sorry to waste your time and be discouraging as all heck (your sighs are valid). I gave you a strong upvote and strong agree which I hope counts for something even though your time is worth way more than that. I truly appreciate the thoughtful, detailed response.
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I don’t think your comment was that bad, it was clearly not norm-violating or anything, and thank you for writing it even if you were very tired and frustrated (I now upvoted it, and I hope you’re now feeling better and taking time for self-care).
It could result in useful feedback on how to improve the forum, which is valuable. I would personally much prefer people write imperfect feedback than nothing at all for fear of being discouraging or incorrect