Thanks JWS, it certainly sounds like we agree more than we disagree.
even if it has been established I want to push back and un-establish
That’s definitely fair!
For what it’s worth I think that the explanation for differences in support for these two different clusters of causes is more epistemic and than it is to do with attitudes towards the longterm or near term per se.[1] Ideally, I’d like the terms we use to not (be seen to) refer to the explanation for supporting the causes at all, since I think the reasons are heterogeneous.
In any case, we definitely agree that none of these terms are perfect, and I suspect no terms are going to be completely satisfactory, but I’m open to continued discussion about what better terms would be.
Although, in terms of predicting “LT minus NT” cause prioritisation from our cause-related idea items, the “long term future” item and “low probability, high impact” items were about equally predictive.
Interestingly, this also holds true in unpublished work we have looking at the general public, for whom objections that influencing the far future is impractical or impossible are more consequential than their lack of concern for future generations.
Thanks JWS, it certainly sounds like we agree more than we disagree.
That’s definitely fair!
For what it’s worth I think that the explanation for differences in support for these two different clusters of causes is more epistemic and than it is to do with attitudes towards the longterm or near term per se.[1] Ideally, I’d like the terms we use to not (be seen to) refer to the explanation for supporting the causes at all, since I think the reasons are heterogeneous.
In any case, we definitely agree that none of these terms are perfect, and I suspect no terms are going to be completely satisfactory, but I’m open to continued discussion about what better terms would be.
Although, in terms of predicting “LT minus NT” cause prioritisation from our cause-related idea items, the “long term future” item and “low probability, high impact” items were about equally predictive.
Interestingly, this also holds true in unpublished work we have looking at the general public, for whom objections that influencing the far future is impractical or impossible are more consequential than their lack of concern for future generations.