As a moderator, I think this comment is off-topic and attempting to provoke a negative reaction or to derail the conversation. This is against Forum norms.
I’ll be discussing with the rest of the moderation team to see whether it merits a ban.
[Edit: the warning is for this comment, not the top-level post.]
I don’t think that the top-level comment is particularly responsive to the post, except insofar as it might have taken the title as a call to action (and then ignored the rest of the post). It’s also quite vague. But I agree that a ban seems like an unusually harsh response, absent additional context which supports the “provocation” interpretation.
Hi, just to clear some things up: the warning and ban are for this comment by 3f6f6014. [1]
We’ve just enabled a system that we’re testing to avoid showing spam or severely norm-breaking comments by users who’ve just joined, by which comments posted by new users don’t show up for other users until they’ve been checked by a Forum mod or facilitator.
The comment I issued a warning for is extremely downvoted and disagree-voted, so I assumed that people were seeing it, although it had the note from the new system “[This comment will not be visible to other users until the moderation team checks it for spam or norm violations.]”. I think that was wrong, and this has caused some confusion. We’ll try to improve the system here.
Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I thought that the post was banned, based on your comment and the flag at the top of the post when I followed the forum norms link.
Banning something that looks like a throwaway account for one month basically is a choice to forbid the person from engaging publically with the criticism that their comment got while doing little else.
This post being downvoted the way it already clearly signals the community doesn’t like the post and moderator action to send that signal isn’t really needed.
Genetic determinism is true.
As a moderator, I think this comment is off-topic and attempting to provoke a negative reaction or to derail the conversation. This is against Forum norms.
I’ll be discussing with the rest of the moderation team to see whether it merits a ban.
[Edit: the warning is for this comment, not the top-level post.]
Update: we’re issuing the commenter a 1-month ban for this comment. If they return to the Forum, we’ll expect a higher standard of norm-following.
[Edit: the ban is for this comment, not the top-level post.]
I don’t understand the reasoning behind this ban. The poster strikes me as trying to be civil, on topic, and honest per the top three forum norms.
In fact the whole post is basically arguing we should be more honest it seems.
Could you explain why the moderation team felt the need to ban the user here?
Edit: To give some more context, this is a post which to me seems to be trying to provoke a negative reaction far more directly, and I would consider warning-worthy: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/f2bR6HgABuych2XAF/now-that-we-trust-senior-eas-less
Edit2: to clarify I assumed that the top level post was being banned because I couldn’t see the comment.
I don’t think that the top-level comment is particularly responsive to the post, except insofar as it might have taken the title as a call to action (and then ignored the rest of the post). It’s also quite vague. But I agree that a ban seems like an unusually harsh response, absent additional context which supports the “provocation” interpretation.
My initial reaction to the mod comment was confusion, as it is not threaded beneath wachichornia’s comment for me:
Hi, just to clear some things up: the warning and ban are for this comment by 3f6f6014. [1]
We’ve just enabled a system that we’re testing to avoid showing spam or severely norm-breaking comments by users who’ve just joined, by which comments posted by new users don’t show up for other users until they’ve been checked by a Forum mod or facilitator.
The comment I issued a warning for is extremely downvoted and disagree-voted, so I assumed that people were seeing it, although it had the note from the new system “[This comment will not be visible to other users until the moderation team checks it for spam or norm violations.]”. I think that was wrong, and this has caused some confusion. We’ll try to improve the system here.
If you can’t see the comment, still, its entire content is “Genetic determinism is true.”
Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I thought that the post was banned, based on your comment and the flag at the top of the post when I followed the forum norms link.
Banning something that looks like a throwaway account for one month basically is a choice to forbid the person from engaging publically with the criticism that their comment got while doing little else.
This post being downvoted the way it already clearly signals the community doesn’t like the post and moderator action to send that signal isn’t really needed.