I appreciate the answer and a gree with most of it. I think it’s a bit rough on Vasco though to say he’s straight up “asking the wrong question”. It might be possible to both encourage more people to give, while you also set an ambitious standard (maybe not as your headline ask)
There’s people out there who might want to move closer to Singers challenge “in order to be good people, we must give until if we gave more, we would be sacrificing something nearly as important as the bad things our donations can prevent.” and I think it would be helpful if some big orgs at least might be willing to suggest what that might look like (again not as a headline, and maybe not even from your org)
I strongly agree with this “It’s best we find ways to work together, learn from each other and support each other, versus pushing a singular approach into the market.” I suspect Vasco might as well
This has also simulated some interesting and potentially helpful discussion.
I think it would be helpful if some big orgs at least might be willing to suggest what that might look like (again not as a headline, and maybe not even from your org)
When I think of organizations that have pulled something close to that off, I think of very personal high-touch organizations, rather than ones with a few-to-many communication strategy. For instance, some nuns and monks (or equivalents) in various faith traditions live very simply for various reasons—one of which is often to devote more resources to caring for the poor. That’s not a level of commitment that an organization can hope to inspire very much through a website, video, or other low-cost-per-recipient forms of communication.
I strongly agree with this “It’s best we find ways to work together, learn from each other and support each other, versus pushing a singular approach into the market.” I suspect Vasco might as well
Yes, I agree. At the same time, I guess having a single lower bound for the recommended donations as a fraction of net income for all income levels would help with coordination, and spreading giving norms. Then it would be possible to say “we have all these people of donate at least x %, so maybe you should consider donating at least x % too”. Still, the optimum lower bound is probably below 10 %. Then I would say the upper bound should increase with net income.
I appreciate the answer and a gree with most of it. I think it’s a bit rough on Vasco though to say he’s straight up “asking the wrong question”. It might be possible to both encourage more people to give, while you also set an ambitious standard (maybe not as your headline ask)
There’s people out there who might want to move closer to Singers challenge “in order to be good people, we must give until if we gave more, we would be sacrificing something nearly as important as the bad things our donations can prevent.” and I think it would be helpful if some big orgs at least might be willing to suggest what that might look like (again not as a headline, and maybe not even from your org)
I strongly agree with this “It’s best we find ways to work together, learn from each other and support each other, versus pushing a singular approach into the market.” I suspect Vasco might as well
This has also simulated some interesting and potentially helpful discussion.
When I think of organizations that have pulled something close to that off, I think of very personal high-touch organizations, rather than ones with a few-to-many communication strategy. For instance, some nuns and monks (or equivalents) in various faith traditions live very simply for various reasons—one of which is often to devote more resources to caring for the poor. That’s not a level of commitment that an organization can hope to inspire very much through a website, video, or other low-cost-per-recipient forms of communication.
Thanks, Nick!
Yes, I agree. At the same time, I guess having a single lower bound for the recommended donations as a fraction of net income for all income levels would help with coordination, and spreading giving norms. Then it would be possible to say “we have all these people of donate at least x %, so maybe you should consider donating at least x % too”. Still, the optimum lower bound is probably below 10 %. Then I would say the upper bound should increase with net income.